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Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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Who needs biased reviews when you have NSC...?

So...

It's coming to that time when heating needs to go on and we all know what that means this year.

I need a stand alone heater for long periods of use (I work from home) that will heat up a room well and is as economical as the current climate allows.

The room is about 17ft x 13ft

I've put it here as a lot of folk will have been making this consideration and I won't have to read biased reviews.

Could I have your suggestion ? Much appreciated.
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,355
Withdean area
Which recommend this heater, which was also the least costly to run.

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AmexRuislip

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Feb 2, 2014
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Ruislip
Who needs biased reviews when you have NSC...?

So...

It's coming to that time when heating needs to go on and we all know what that means this year.

I need a stand alone heater for long periods of use (I work from home) that will heat up a room well and is as economical as the current climate allows.

The room is about 17ft x 13ft

I've put it here as a lot of folk will have been making this consideration and I won't have to read biased reviews.

Could I have your suggestion ? Much appreciated.
As we're on Economy 7, we've just had installed a Dimplex Quantum Q150 storage heater.
Bloody 👏

 
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GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
49,192
Gloucester
Adverts for these £69 super heaters (designed by a jet engineer) that are super efficient (allegedly) are appearing all over the internet - are they any good? Has anybody tried one?
 




Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
57,320
Back in Sussex
This was their general advice on electric heaters.

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That's remarkable if all correct.

We took the plunge and gave the central hearing a first run out this week. A 45-minute blast used about 15kWh, but only made a difference of about one degree according to the Hive thermostat.

Whilst the central heating will be warming the entire house and an electric heater just the one room, generally we're only using a couple of rooms in the house at any one time so it sounds like we'd get a lot more heat for less money by using a couple of these electric heaters. 10 degrees in 15-30 minutes is incredible!
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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basic physics tells me using 1kw to heat will produce the same heat whatever the methods. only real difference is how they distribute that heat. simple fan heater will heat air quickly but little residual heat. mini oil radiators take a bit of time, continue emitting heat after power switches off. this seems most efficient.
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
14,284
Cumbria
It partly depends what you are doing when WFH. If you are sat at a desk most of the time, then consider the portable halogen heaters. I have one in my loft, and whilst it doesn't heat the whole space, being under my desk it heats me just fine - if your legs/feet are warm, the rest of you usually is too. The power input is variable from 400-1200kWh usually.
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,355
Withdean area
That's remarkable if all correct.

We took the plunge and gave the central hearing a first run out this week. A 45-minute blast used about 15kWh, but only made a difference of about one degree according to the Hive thermostat.

Whilst the central heating will be warming the entire house and an electric heater just the one room, generally we're only using a couple of rooms in the house at any one time so it sounds like we'd get a lot more heat for less money by using a couple of these electric heaters. 10 degrees in 15-30 minutes is incredible!
Which also mentioned the potential benefit, by taking the chill out of a room or two, without having to have the c/h on.
 

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Jul 20, 2003
20,699
Adverts for these £69 super heaters (designed by a jet engineer) that are super efficient (allegedly) are appearing all over the internet - are they any good? Has anybody tried


There's some bullshit doing the rounds at that price point with all manner of back story. I

Sometimes it's a child genius, sometimes it's a retired astronaut.

...if you were posting this as a joke, fair enough

If not ignore them like you would a Nigerian princess.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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There's some bullshit doing the rounds at that price point with all manner of back story. I

Sometimes it's a child genius, sometimes it's a retired astronaut.

...if you were posting this as a joke, fair enough

If not ignore them like you would a Nigerian princess.
Why would I post it as a joke? What a weird idea.

I was asking if anybody had actually tried one, and was it any good. Seems like a very straightforward question to me ......... and yes, I do know what to do with emails from Nigerian princes, but adverts are adverts; they may be good, they may be bullshit - that's why it's sensible to see if anybody can give you a steer based on their actual experience.

So have you, or anyone you know, got any first hand information about these gadgets?
 




Jul 20, 2003
20,699
Why would I post it as a joke? What a weird idea.

I was asking if anybody had actually tried one, and was it any good. Seems like a very straightforward question to me ......... and yes, I do know what to do with emails from Nigerian princes, but adverts are adverts; they may be good, they may be bullshit - that's why it's sensible to see if anybody can give you a steer based on their actual experience.

So have you, or anyone you know, got any first hand information about these gadgets?
Ah, sorry about that.

There have been loads of ads doing the rounds for 300Watt heaters with claims that they will hear a room quickly and 'efficiently'. They won't. British Thermal Units per hour are just a different way of expressing watts, 1 watt = 3.14 BTU/hr, 1000 watts = 3,140 BTU/hr. This means a small £30 1,000 watt heater with one element will produce the same amount of heat as £350 Dyson 1,000 watt heater. I suppose if a heater is completely silent that would be a tiny bit more efficient. For fans of Star Trek this is the bit where Mr Scott says 'ye cannae change the laws of physics'.

Efficiency when it comes to the heaters themselves is a bit odd. When we talk about energy efficiency appliances we are typically taking about NOT generating heat. E.g. An energy efficient TV produces less waste heat. In this sense what we want from an electric heater is actually maximum inefficiency i.e. all the electricity being converted into heat and that's pretty much what happens. Even the energy used to turn the fan, if there is one, will eventually be converted to a small amount of heat. In summary more watts = more heat = more cost.

Of course using the heat efficiently is where the savings can be made and that goes back to the standard things, insulate, block draughts and only heat the areas that need heating.
 


Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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Just give this thread a bump. I'm looking to replace the heater I have. Any suggestions folks ? (I do tend to prefer space heaters)
 


zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
22,795
Sussex, by the sea
I used electric fan heaters in my workshop/garage for years, and still do, sparingly . . . no point in heating it if I'm not in there. The best acquisition this year has been a small dehumidifier, escpacially as we're now in monsoon season. Nothing in there likes being damp.
 




Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
57,320
Back in Sussex
I was the beneficiary of an infrared panel heater whilst at @Papa Lazarou's to watch the England game on Monday.

I noticed it was branded Princess so was this, or very similar:


I'd not heard of this type of heater before, but it seemed to be pretty effective, I thought.
 


Cheeky Monkey

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Jul 17, 2003
23,884
Have always favoured oil heaters over something that pumps out hot air. More economical, better environmentally and better for health reasons than a room of dry air, the main downside of them though being more localised heat.
 


Sid and the Sharknados

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Sep 4, 2022
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Darlington
basic physics tells me using 1kw to heat will produce the same heat whatever the methods. only real difference is how they distribute that heat. simple fan heater will heat air quickly but little residual heat. mini oil radiators take a bit of time, continue emitting heat after power switches off. this seems most efficient.
I know this is jumping back a bit, but I only just happened across the thread.
That sentence re. producing the same amount of heat for the same amount of energy isn't true.
There can be an extremely wide variation depending on the material of the heating element, the contact area with the air, total size, etc.
 


CheeseRolls

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Jan 27, 2009
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Shoreham Beach
That's remarkable if all correct.

We took the plunge and gave the central hearing a first run out this week. A 45-minute blast used about 15kWh, but only made a difference of about one degree according to the Hive thermostat.

Whilst the central heating will be warming the entire house and an electric heater just the one room, generally we're only using a couple of rooms in the house at any one time so it sounds like we'd get a lot more heat for less money by using a couple of these electric heaters. 10 degrees in 15-30 minutes is incredible!
With two working from home at opposite ends of the house, I added Tado thermostats to all of the radiators in the house. Not cheap, but I can now focus heating on the rooms, where we work in the day and other rooms in the evenings and on weekends. It is simple to adjust if needed. Compared to November last year, which was much colder, I am currently seeing a 58% decrease in heating consumption.
 




Papak

Not an NSC licker...
Jul 11, 2003
2,279
Horsham
Electricity is essentially 100% efficient (at the point of use) so it doesn't matter which electric heater you use.

You cannot change the laws of Physics!
 


Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
20,700
Born In Shoreham
I picked up a 2kw site heater from screwfix last winter £40 the absolute nuts keeps me toasty warm on cold sites. Indoors a quick blast quickly heats up a room
 


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