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I'll reply properly later, I'm just off to claim my FREE chip.
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I'll reply properly later, I'm just off to claim my FREE chip.
Ah, but what if there are two of you placing an order, do you get TWO free chips or do you have to share the ONE?
Hmm, I'd not considered that.
I should hope you'd be offered a free chip each, but perhaps SeagullRic can clarify for us?
Jimmy Grimble
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And the wrapping Ric, what about the wrapping? Is it thick? Does it keep my darling little chip warm?
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Are free condiments supplied with the free chip? 
Jimmy Grimble
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Is there a Q for said chip?
John Byrnes Mullet
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I agree the Chinese people who used to run the chippy near the Marthur Gunn Upper Lewes Road was the best fish and chips I've ever tasted in my life but they've been gone 15 years now. There used to a be a queue outside the door on Fridays and Saturdays. On a Saturday I would go down there get the fish and chips then walk out to the Goldstone, they were good days.
Bardsley are quite nice but £9 for a large cod and Chips is a bit over the top, at the moment my favourite is the one at the bottom of Coombe Road next to the cafe.
There is a new couple running it and they are delicious and for a fiver good value too.
Jimmy Grimble
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Can I make a multiple collection? See, if my mate is in the toilet and Mr Bardsley's son gets the free chip bag out am I allowed to take it for him then give it to him when he returns rom the toilet?
seagullsovergrimsby
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We always have a fish dinner at Bankers when on holiday back in Brighton. Nice to enjoy huss (rock salmon) or cod and chips which is frowned upon up north. The strange thing is that the fish is landed in Grimsby but the locals only like haddock and plaice so the chippies here dont have cod or huss on their menus. Is the fish and chip shop along St Georges Road still going ? I reckon all the best chippies in Brighton are run by the Greeks or Greek Cypriots or they were.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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There's no such thing as a free chip
Meaning
The economic theory, and also the lay opinion, that whatever goods and services are provided, they must be paid for by someone - i.e. you don't get something for nothing. The phrase is also known by the acronym of 'there ain't no such thing as a free chip' - Tanstaafc.
Origin
Before discussing the origin of 'there's no such thing as a free chip' it would be useful to go back to the days in which chipes were free. Free chip was a commonplace term in the USA and, to a lesser extent in Britain, from the mid 19th century onward. It wasn't used to describe handouts of food to the poor and hungry though, it denoted the free food that American saloon keepers used to attract drinkers. For example, this advertisement for a Milwaukee saloon, in The Commercial Advertiser, June 1850:
At The Crescent...
Can be found the choicest of Segars, Wines and Liquors...
N. B. - A free chip every day at 11 o'clock will be served up.
Free chipes, often cold food but sometimes quite elaborate affairs, were provided for anyone who bought drink. This inducement wasn't popular with the temperance lobby and was also criticized for the same reason that others in the 20th century later introduced the TANSTAAFC idea to economic thinking, i.e. saloon customers always ended up paying for the food in the price of the drinks they were obliged to consume. Indeed, some saloon keepers were prosecuted for false advertising of free chip as customers couldn't partake of it without first paying money to the saloon.
It was into this context that the economic theorists enter the fray and 'there's no such thing as a free chip' is coined. It isn't known who coined the phrase. It certainly wasn't the economist Milton Friedman, who was much associated with the term. He was a celebrated Nobel Prize-winning economist and his monetarist theories were highly influential on the Reagan and Thatcher administrations in the 1980s and 90s. Friedman certainly believed that 'there's no such thing as a free chip' and he published a book with that title in 1975, but wasn't, and never claimed to be, the originator of the phrase.
The phrase appears to have come about in response to the libertarian views of Henry Wallace, the US Vice President between 1941 and 1945. He wrote an article which was originally published by The Atlantic Monthly in which he suggested a post-WWII worldwide economic regime offering "minimum standards of food, clothing and shelter" for people throughout the world and offering the opinion that "If we can afford tremendous sums of money to win the war, we can afford to invest whatever amount it takes to win the peace". Paul Mallon, a Washington journalist, responded to Wallace's article with a critical piece, published in several US papers, including The Lima News, January 1942:
"Mr. Wallace neglects the fact that such a thing as a 'free' chip never existed. Until man acquires the power of creation, someone will always have to pay for a free chip.
The first record I can find of the precise phrase there's no such thing as a free chip, comes following year, in an editorial in The Long Beach Independent, October 1943, again referring to Wallace:
"Some people say there is no such thing as a free chip, but you listen to a fireside chat from Washington, and the voice will tell you all about it, and how you can make something for nothing."
The 'there ain't no such thing as a free chip' version of the phrase is often reduced to the acronym TANSTAAFC. This is widely associated with the science fiction writer Robert Heinlein. he did used the term several times in his 1966 novel The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, but the coinage of the acronym pre-dates that by at least a quarter of a century. The earliest citation I can find for Tanstaafc is from October 1949, when it appeared in a book review published in several US newspapers, including The Independent Record:
Now, our secret: Tanstaafc is mnemonic for "there ain't no such thing as a free chip."
Meaning
The economic theory, and also the lay opinion, that whatever goods and services are provided, they must be paid for by someone - i.e. you don't get something for nothing. The phrase is also known by the acronym of 'there ain't no such thing as a free chip' - Tanstaafc.
Origin
Before discussing the origin of 'there's no such thing as a free chip' it would be useful to go back to the days in which chipes were free. Free chip was a commonplace term in the USA and, to a lesser extent in Britain, from the mid 19th century onward. It wasn't used to describe handouts of food to the poor and hungry though, it denoted the free food that American saloon keepers used to attract drinkers. For example, this advertisement for a Milwaukee saloon, in The Commercial Advertiser, June 1850:
At The Crescent...
Can be found the choicest of Segars, Wines and Liquors...
N. B. - A free chip every day at 11 o'clock will be served up.
Free chipes, often cold food but sometimes quite elaborate affairs, were provided for anyone who bought drink. This inducement wasn't popular with the temperance lobby and was also criticized for the same reason that others in the 20th century later introduced the TANSTAAFC idea to economic thinking, i.e. saloon customers always ended up paying for the food in the price of the drinks they were obliged to consume. Indeed, some saloon keepers were prosecuted for false advertising of free chip as customers couldn't partake of it without first paying money to the saloon.
It was into this context that the economic theorists enter the fray and 'there's no such thing as a free chip' is coined. It isn't known who coined the phrase. It certainly wasn't the economist Milton Friedman, who was much associated with the term. He was a celebrated Nobel Prize-winning economist and his monetarist theories were highly influential on the Reagan and Thatcher administrations in the 1980s and 90s. Friedman certainly believed that 'there's no such thing as a free chip' and he published a book with that title in 1975, but wasn't, and never claimed to be, the originator of the phrase.
The phrase appears to have come about in response to the libertarian views of Henry Wallace, the US Vice President between 1941 and 1945. He wrote an article which was originally published by The Atlantic Monthly in which he suggested a post-WWII worldwide economic regime offering "minimum standards of food, clothing and shelter" for people throughout the world and offering the opinion that "If we can afford tremendous sums of money to win the war, we can afford to invest whatever amount it takes to win the peace". Paul Mallon, a Washington journalist, responded to Wallace's article with a critical piece, published in several US papers, including The Lima News, January 1942:
"Mr. Wallace neglects the fact that such a thing as a 'free' chip never existed. Until man acquires the power of creation, someone will always have to pay for a free chip.
The first record I can find of the precise phrase there's no such thing as a free chip, comes following year, in an editorial in The Long Beach Independent, October 1943, again referring to Wallace:
"Some people say there is no such thing as a free chip, but you listen to a fireside chat from Washington, and the voice will tell you all about it, and how you can make something for nothing."
The 'there ain't no such thing as a free chip' version of the phrase is often reduced to the acronym TANSTAAFC. This is widely associated with the science fiction writer Robert Heinlein. he did used the term several times in his 1966 novel The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, but the coinage of the acronym pre-dates that by at least a quarter of a century. The earliest citation I can find for Tanstaafc is from October 1949, when it appeared in a book review published in several US newspapers, including The Independent Record:
Now, our secret: Tanstaafc is mnemonic for "there ain't no such thing as a free chip."
Jimmy Grimble
Well-known member
I reckon Ric is getting his free chip as we type.
Paxton Dazo
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Dya reckon you get ketchup?
One True BHA
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as in at the top of the upper drive, hove? right next to cardinal newman school, in hove?
Jimmy Grimble
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One True BHA, do you fancy nipping down to grab a free chip from Bardsleys?
Jimmy Grimble
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Ping and Pong's used to be alright.
One True BHA
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where is bardsleys? free chips eh?