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Ben Foster - Not fit to wear the shirt??







Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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You wonder whether he would have made the same decision if, say, Harry Redknapp was England manager.

Secondly, how many cricketers or rugby players aged 28 retire from internationals? He's got it easy. Other than major tournaments every 2 years (and we don't always qualify for those!) you're away one or two nights at most. Contrast that with, say, Monty Panesar who travelled to the other side of the world to carry the drinks for about 4 months.
 


Gritt23

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Jul 7, 2003
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cricketers who really need resting before a long international season will go and play in the ipl even if it means they miss playing for their countries due to injuries they incur

In fairness, this hasn't happened anywhere close to what I was expecting. Stuart Broad specifically pulled out of the IPL this time last year saying that he was only focussed on the Ashes, and being fit and fresh for that. He then got injured in Australia .... :-(
 


Scotty Mac

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Jul 13, 2003
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You wonder whether he would have made the same decision if, say, Harry Redknapp was England manager.

depends if redknapp was playing him as his number one or not
 


pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
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If he suddenly decides to come mincing back on the eve of a tournament because Joe Hart is crocked, he should politely be told to go and piss up a rope.

But thats the problem though, he wouldn't be told that. If Hart were injured a week before the Euro's next year for instance, and Foster was in top form for his club, the England top brass would try and get him to come back. Doesn't mean it's right, and I don't agree with it, but it would almost certainly happen.
 




Scotty Mac

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In fairness, this hasn't happened anywhere close to what I was expecting. Stuart Broad specifically pulled out of the IPL this time last year saying that he was only focussed on the Ashes, and being fit and fresh for that. He then got injured in Australia .... :-(

you do get the odd exception - broad being one. i think its a massive help that england players are contracted to the ecb. if they weren't and the ecb didn't therefore have the element of control over them that they do, i dare say that a lot more would play the entire ipl camapign for the money
 


Scotty Mac

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But thats the problem though, he wouldn't be told that. If Hart were injured a week before the Euro's next year for instance, and Foster was in top form for his club, the England top brass would try and get him to come back. Doesn't mean it's right, and I don't agree with it, but it would almost certainly happen.

and you could bet your bottom dollar that whatever the outcome, people would still kick off at the fa and the team management. they were criticised for bringing carragher back who had retired, yet at the same time were also criticised for not doing enough to get scholes back

damned if you do, damned if you dont
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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Let's throw something else into the mix. He had a chance at Man Utd, but they let him go. Had he still been there he'd now be in poll position to take over from Edwin Van Der Sar for next season.
 




Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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Let's throw something else into the mix. He had a chance at Man Utd, but they let him go. Had he still been there he'd now be in poll position to take over from Edwin Van Der Sar for next season.

If Fergie had rated him, he wouldn't have released him.
I seem to remember he went on a season-long loan deal from Manure to Watford when they were in the Prem, and despite them being relegated, he was outstanding. But Fergie still went out and bought Van Der Sar rather than turn to Foster for the keepers jersey at OT.
 




Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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It now looks like Rob Green may follow suit. What a bunch of w***ers. That would presumably put Scott Carson back as England's reserve 'keeper?

Rob Green may call time on his England career | Football | The Guardian

I'm struggling to come to terms with how mentally weak some of these players are. Generally I'm all for progress, but right now let's turn the clock back 30 years and make some of these mincers run up and down hills in the rain, and clean other people's boots.

I have a bit to do with snooker, and Mark Williams has come back from 47 in the world rankings three years ago to No1 by knuckling down and toughing it out. His dad was a Welsh miner, once took him down a mine, showed him what he did, and said 'If you don't want to end up doing this, make the most of your talent'. To see England No2 goalkeepers who can't be arsed fighting for the top job, or even turning up to be part of a squad, is a disgrace.
 




I'm struggling to come to terms with how mentally weak some of these players are. Generally I'm all for progress, but right now let's turn the clock back 30 years and make some of these mincers run up and down hills in the rain, and clean other people's boots.

Are they mentally weak, or do they just not care? Practically anyone outside of the England squad would give their right arm to get into that squad. These two just can't be arsed. Thankfully, at the moment at least, they are among a minority - I can only think of Carragher (and arguably Scholes) in recent times that have retired early for similar reasons; for each of them there is a Wayne Bridge or a Gareth Barry happy to turn up for each squad, try their hardest, and then sit on the bench.
 


Scotty Mac

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keaton

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Nov 18, 2004
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I'm struggling to come to terms with how mentally weak some of these players are. Generally I'm all for progress, but right now let's turn the clock back 30 years and make some of these mincers run up and down hills in the rain, and clean other people's boots.

I have a bit to do with snooker, and Mark Williams has come back from 47 in the world rankings three years ago to No1 by knuckling down and toughing it out. His dad was a Welsh miner, once took him down a mine, showed him what he did, and said 'If you don't want to end up doing this, make the most of your talent'. To see England No2 goalkeepers who can't be arsed fighting for the top job, or even turning up to be part of a squad, is a disgrace.

On a similiar note, in rugby Steve Thompson had to pay back insurance money after doctor's told him he to stop playing and he'll be going to the World Cup this autumn witH England
 




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