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Bedwetters gone quiet



pishhead

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Jul 9, 2003
5,248
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I think concern and outright condemnation of people like Barber and Burke are completely different. Was I concerned after the first two games? Absolutely. Was I calling for heads to roll? Certainly not, if Tony Bloom says to judge the squad on the 1st of September that's what I'll do. I'd much rather trust a man who has delivered us competitive squads for each season under his stewardship.
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
I admit to having expressed concern at how many players had been released and how few signed by the Birmingham game. Anyone who was not at all concerned is either not that bothered by our results, in the know, or a liar. If being quite concerned makes me a bedwetter, so be it. I am certainly very happy with the look of the current squad now though.
 


Mowgli37

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Jan 13, 2013
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DarrenFreemansPerm

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Sep 28, 2010
17,446
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Exactly. They're currently camped out, fingers poised, bathed in the glow of their computer screen waiting for the slightest misstep...

If you genuinely believe that then you're a very strange person. Nobody wants to see the club struggling, everybody wants to see us be successful, but we all have different ways of expressing it. There will not be a single Albion fan wanting less than a win on Saturday, unless they've got Charlton on their accumulator. It's quite honestly ridiculous to think otherwise.
 


looney

Banned
Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Funny how they all go quiet when good things happen at the club. It's like they want things to be bad so they can moan, it is quite bizarre. There must be a medical term for a condition that makes someone long for bad times so they can be miserable, and silent during good times. Oh yes there is- bedwetter.

Socialist.

Has Barber found the missing cup final moey yet? No, Barber OUT.
 












LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
48,421
SHOREHAM BY SEA
Apologies bedwetters

1 Thumbs Down! Thumbs Up!
I am now right next to you, slashing everywhere

Buckley sold.
Ward binned us.
March going....

On top of us stinking out the AMEX on Saturday with that stale, turgid, indecipherable mess, I am losing it


guess who said this only 2 weeks ago .....we 'all' got a little concerned





..if you haven't guessed ...the poster who started the thread
 
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Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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This. I thought we looked like we could be in a total mess. Two league defeats, half a team and the Ward deal hijacked. Feeling concerned about things was surely fair enough at that point. But the capture of Holla seems to have changed everything.

Wednesday and Birmingham will look back on their wins as CRUCIAL points in their battle to stay in the division. Let's hope they don't cost us our promotion ambitions.

Quite. Naturally there are those who, at times of worry, go childishly over the top - accusing Bloom of cashing in on Ulloa, or people they wouldn't recognise on the street of not doing their jobs properly, but I'm not apologising for fearing we'd struggle two weeks ago when we couldn't even capture our seemingly easiest transfer target having lost abjectly twice, and really struggled past a league 2 side - and nor should anybody else.
All of that would be fine and dandy except for one crucial point.
At the forum Tony Bloom sat in front of an audience of tens and said:-

'Judge me at the end of the window'.

Simple and effective.
Yet not only did it fall on deaf ears, it became a red rag to some, and actually seemed to spiral the depression still further.
The bullshit piled on top of the already full silo was incredible.

And yet here we are, at the end of the window, and it seems that most if not (dare I say) all fans feel Sami has been given the tools to do the job.

As for the 'mythical' six points.
Our full squad will drop more than 6, but it'll also snatch more than 6 from the jaws of defeat.
That's football in a 46 game season, with 138 points up for grabs.

I think we should all just draw a line under it and learn from it.
Would that it were.

We all know we'll be back again in January, only 10 times worse.
 


El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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Pattknull med Haksprut
Quite. Naturally there are those who, at times of worry, go childishly over the top - accusing Bloom of cashing in on Ulloa, or people they wouldn't recognise on the street of not doing their jobs properly, but I'm not apologising for fearing we'd struggle two weeks ago when we couldn't even capture our seemingly easiest transfer target having lost abjectly twice, and really struggled past a league 2 side - and nor should anybody else.

Agree totally. Watching the abysmal performance at Birmingham was grim.


But yours is a measured, mature and considered viewpoint, I think the 'bedwetters' label is aimed at those claiming for the head of David Burke and wanting their ST money back after claiming money had been taken from them under false pretences. Tony Bloom asked for a little patience, some people were too busy sharpening their knives to allow him that reasonable request.
 




Stat Brother

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Who'd have guessed a strategy of listening to what's being said and waiting to see if it was true, or not, would pay such dividends.
 


DarrenFreemansPerm

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Agree totally. Watching the abysmal performance at Birmingham was grim.


But yours is a measured, mature and considered viewpoint, I think the 'bedwetters' label is aimed at those claiming for the head of David Burke and wanting their ST money back after claiming money had been taken from them under false pretences. Tony Bloom asked for a little patience, some people were too busy sharpening their knives to allow him that reasonable request.

But surely that was only about 5 people that we're behaving like that?
 


Surf's Up

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Jul 17, 2011
10,435
Here
It isn't nonsense at all. If after two games you weren't slightly concerned, having lost to two crap teams, with a threadbare squad, and then seeing the club hijacked over Stephen Ward, you were a fcking moron.

This. I was just beginning to experience one or two involuntary minor nocturnal seepages after the Ward deal was hijacked but now I find myself expelling nocturnal fluid of a completely different nature.
 




Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
This is a ridiculous argument not just, as fruitnveg says, because for some fans it's about a belief that you're a better fan if you remain positive in the dark times (the counter to that position being that you are ignoring everything wrong with a team/club, and if you do that you might be too late to act on it if fan action is needed).

But it's also, I think, for some other fans, an expression of relief. Those fans were too scared to admit they were worried about how late the signings were being left, how player after player was, or appeared to be, choosing other clubs over us. Now things have come good, they can breathe a sigh of relief by criticising those who said what deep down they really felt.


There's also just the terrible logic behind the argument. People complained about a (perceived?) problem. Now the 'problem' has been dealt with. Why do you expect people to still be complaining? You get that ridiculous argument with phone ins, where a team has lost five on the bounce, fans calling in showing concern, criticising those they felt were responsible, then there's one win and suddenly the phone in is full of 'where are the moaners now, eh?'

When the thing that someone was moaning about is no longer an issue, they will stop moaning. Why do you expect them to still be moaning?

And let's not act like 'bedwetters' was some sort of exclusive term, reserved only for the most extreme cases. It was bandied around willy nilly to anyone who even hinted at slight unease at the lack of signings, or supposedly targeted players going elsewhere, or the losses to teams not expected to be tough opposition, or the quite terrible performances.

Also, let's not act like it's only moaners who go quiet when there's nothing for them to moan about. There are plenty of people who post about given NSC a swerve for a while when things aren't going well 'because it's too negative here' (because they can't put a proper positive spin on things)
 


somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
Apologies bedwetters

1 Thumbs Down! Thumbs Up!
I am now right next to you, slashing everywhere

Buckley sold.
Ward binned us.
March going....

On top of us stinking out the AMEX on Saturday with that stale, turgid, indecipherable mess, I am losing it


guess who said this only 2 weeks ago .....we 'all' got a little concerned





..if you haven't guessed ...the poster who started the thread
Boootiful
 


British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,974
All of that would be fine and dandy except for one crucial point.
At the forum Tony Bloom sat in front of an audience of tens and said:-

'Judge me at the end of the window'.

Simple and effective.
Yet not only did it fall on deaf ears, it became a red rag to some, and actually seemed to spiral the depression still further.
The bullshit piled on top of the already full silo was incredible.

And yet here we are, at the end of the window, and it seems that most if not (dare I say) all fans feel Sami has been given the tools to do the job.

As for the 'mythical' six points.
Our full squad will drop more than 6, but it'll also snatch more than 6 from the jaws of defeat.
That's football in a 46 game season, with 138 points up for grabs.


Would that it were.

We all know we'll be back again in January, only 10 times worse.

In fairness though on the 3/7/14 Tony Bloom also said " I'm confident for the start of the season we'll have a very competitive squad " so people were justified in being a bit concerned after that failed to materialise, Like most people I'm glad the squad building has finally come together and is looking good but lets not pretend that everything was all rosy in the garden during the summer as something quite clearly didn't go to plan.
 


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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But yours is a measured, mature and considered viewpoint, I think the 'bedwetters' label is aimed at those claiming for the head of David Burke and wanting their ST money back after claiming money had been taken from them under false pretences. Tony Bloom asked for a little patience, some people were too busy sharpening their knives to allow him that reasonable request.

Have you been around NSC in the last couple of months? One poster called someone a bed wetter because he said 'ideally we'd get our business done sooner rather than later'. The term bed wetter was thrown around at anyone who even hinted at slight concern.
 




Iggle Piggle

Well-known member
Sep 3, 2010
5,955
This. I thought we looked like we could be in a total mess. Two league defeats, half a team and the Ward deal hijacked. Feeling concerned about things was surely fair enough at that point. But the capture of Holla seems to have changed everything.

Wednesday and Birmingham will look back on their wins as CRUCIAL points in their battle to stay in the division. Let's hope they don't cost us our promotion ambitions.

Agree with this.

I'll throw in a dogs breakfast of a transfer window in January (Stephens excepted), Ulloa and Buckley gone (with no replacements at the time) and a series of marketing tosh in our inboxes which was at odds with what was on the pitch. Hardly surprising people were starting to get jumpy.

Also, At that time Hypia was saying we needed more players and more competition. So was Craig Mackail Smith. Anyone going to slag them off?

We haven't played a decent team yet either.
 
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somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
We haven't played a decent team yet either.

Until Charlton, who are ticking along nicely it seems...........we need to pick up the atmosphere, get the team up for it, and dream of a Colunga/CMS/Baldock goal fest...... 4-1 to the good guys.
 


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