Baroness Thatcher - Dead / RIP

[The Large One]

I think the point is that if the right goes to the left, and the left moves to the right and the middle becomes disorientated that consensus politics might be a way forward.

Oooh... Hokey, cokey, cokey...

 

[piersa]

Very Sad.

Whilst she may have divided opinion at least she put the Great into Britain.

How many of the Prime Ministers after her will be remmebered in our children's lifetimes?

Blair will be for being a war criminal

 

[Southern Toon]

She pretty much viewed football supporters as scum and would have had every single fan carrying an ID card if she had got her way.

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To be fair there was a lot of scum following football in the seventies & eighties. It was the actions of these hooligans over many years that resulted in many stadiums having to erect fencing to stop pitch invasions. You could well argue that the actions of the hooligans that followed most clubs at that time resulted in more deaths at the Hillsborough than was necessary.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Well you are from the North and are rejoicing in someones death - whatever their actions are.

At least some people who disagreed with her have enough class to not do anything......

I had first hand experience of what Thatcher was doing to the country as a union rep in the BRIGHTON TELEPHONES branch of the UCW (now CWU). Living up north for 20 years hasn't changed my opinion of Thatcher.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

Interesting quote from the BBC;

"What is her legacy?

Britain would probably be a very different place today without Margaret Thatcher. Her bold free market reforms and curbs on union power - that caused so much controversy in the 1980s - are now accepted as conventional wisdom by all mainstream British political parties. The centre ground of British politics shifted to the right as a result of her time in power. She is, furthermore, a global icon and role model for female politicians and, with Ronald Reagan, one of the towering figures of the political right."

 

[piersa]

I had first hand experience of what Thatcher was doing to the country as a shop steward in the BRIGHTON TELEPHONES branch of the UCW (now CWU). Living up north for 20 years hasn't changed my opinion of Thatcher.

Get a job then

 

[Doc Lynam]

Interesting quote from the BBC;

"What is her legacy?

Britain would probably be a very different place today without Margaret Thatcher. Her bold free market reforms and curbs on union power - that caused so much controversy in the 1980s - are now accepted as conventional wisdom by all mainstream British political parties. The centre ground of British politics shifted to the right as a result of her time in power. She is, furthermore, a global icon and role model for female politicians and, with Ronald Reagan, one of the towering figures of the political right."

Yeah Paddy Ashdown does talk **** sometimes.

 

[User removed 4]

This.

So , you're full of compassion and self righteous anger for the people who had their livelihoods destroyed by thatcher , how do you square that with your post on the thread about Romanians coming to Britain and not only taking jobs , but undercutting British workers by their willingness to take jobs for a lot less money ? You know the one , you welcomed it an stated that " as a consumer I want competition and choice " , so your socialist principles go out of the window when it adds a few pence to that skinny latte eh ?

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Get a job then

Already got one.

 

[hitony]

Re: Baroness Thatcher - RIP

Can you throw in a spare set of alloys? lol

There is only one answer to that question..........."if I want to"

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Speaking as someone who disliked almost everything Thatcher stood for, I still think celebrating someone's death shows a definite lack of class.

Celebrate when she lost power? Definitely. Celebrate when someone loses a life? Not for me.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Ironically, her legacy is most obvious by looking at the Labour party. She changed the face of Britain so much that it is now entirely unthinkable for the UK electorate to vote in a socialist government a la Harold Wilson or Jim Callaghan.

Exactly. That is her real legacy. In her tenure, the Labour party became unelectable. Once John Smith died and the way was clear for Tony Blair and his team to get to work, the left was abandoned, any division between the main parties disappeared and we were all sold on the idea that this was a young progressive leader who would usher in a new dawn.
They had no hesitation in abandoning all the principles that the party had been formed around. It was new conservatism rather than new labour. They adopted the American attitude of ' more style less substance ' and spin became the buzz word.
Inadvertently she had helped to create the new politician. Younger, more attractive and hell-bent on ensuring their own agenda was firmly in place, at the expense of the interests of the electorate.
This is what we have now. Faceless, characterless civil servants. No experience and no nous. A pack of lemmings towing the party line and a disillusioned electorate. No divide between right and left anymore just a mass of grey suits in the middle. All indistinguishable from each other.
Just like Churchill, she was loved and loathed in equal measure. Just like Churchill, she found her forte in wartime leadership. Just like Churchill, she turned vast swathes of the electorate against her, with her policies and ideals.
These are the two leaders who have divided opinion more than any others and will still be talked about in 100 years time.

 

[piersa]

So , you're full of compassion and self righteous anger for the people who had their livelihoods destroyed by thatcher , how do you square that with your post on the thread about Romanians coming to Britain and not only taking jobs , but undercutting British workers by their willingness to take jobs for a lot less money ? You know the one , you welcomed it an stated that " as a consumer I want competition and choice " , so your socialist principles go out of the window when it adds a few pence to that skinny latte eh ?

Knocks Tubthumper into a cocked hat and destroys his hypocrisy in one well worded sweep.

 

[Doc Lynam]

The worlds in mourning

Margaret Thatcher's death leads news across the globe as even Argentina bids fond farewell | Mail Online

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

So , you're full of compassion and self righteous anger for the people who had their livelihoods destroyed by thatcher , how do you square that with your post on the thread about Romanians coming to Britain and not only taking jobs , but undercutting British workers by their willingness to take jobs for a lot less money ? You know the one , you welcomed it an stated that " as a consumer I want competition and choice " , so your socialist principles go out of the window when it adds a few pence to that skinny latte eh ?

I was wondering how long it would take you to join the party.

Thatcher destroyed various industries which I do not support. It was based more on political idealogy than economics. This is quite different to supporting competition in the work place. And I do not agree with undercutting as I support a higher minimum (or living) wage. Two seperate arguments which you are tenuously linking.

PS I take my coffee black like any decent discerning person does.

 

[RowleyBirkinQ.C(deceased)]

Baroness Thatcher - RIP

Couldn't stand her or her party's policies, but she is a legendary figure and an end of an era. R.I.P

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

She dragged the sick man of europe up from its death bed. For that she should always be remembered. Did she go too far? Yes and that's why she was replaced. But I for one believe her strong leadership was what the country needed at that time.

RIP Maggie

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

I was wondering how long it would take you to join the party.

Thatcher destroyed various industries which I do not support. It was based more on political idealogy than economics. This is quite different to supporting competition in the work place. And I do not agree with undercutting as I support a higher minimum (or living) wage.

The unions had already put the death nail in our major industries.

 

[The Oldman]

Margaret Thatcher, who became prime minister two days before Brighton & Hove Albion won promotion to what is now the Premier League, has passed away.

I recall when returning from Newcastle on the train as the alcohol flowed freely a BT copper remarking that he had never seen such well behaved celebrations by football supporters to which a lady in her 50's who had celebrated rather well replied that is because we are from Hove and are Thatcher' supporters as well as Albion" At this point the carriage erupted with rather choice language and the copper retreated. shaking his head.

 

[User removed 4]

you really are a charmer

Says the man who agreed with the comment " good riddance " about the death of a sick old woman.