Barnsley boss... Keith Hill comments (merged)

[drew]

'Taking the division, moving the clubs around, then I would suggest the clubs below have a lower budget and those above have a bigger budget. There may be a couple in the wrong place but in terms of being 17th, we are there or there abouts.

Southampton
West Ham
Middlesbrough
Cardiff
Blackpool
Burnley
Leeds
Derby
Hull
Leicester
Birmingham
Reading
Ipswich
Portsmouth
Brighton
Millwall
Peterborough
Crystal Palace
Barnsley
Nott'm Forest
Watford
Bristol City
Coventry
Doncaster

 

[Marshy]

I think maybe 17th in terms of money being paid to players in wages is probably correct.

 

[Djmiles]

Forest with a smaller budget than us? Find that very hard to believe.

 

[Foolg]

'Taking the division, moving the clubs around, then I would suggest the clubs below have a lower budget and those above have a bigger budget. There may be a couple in the wrong place but in terms of being 17th, we are there or there abouts.

Southampton
West Ham
Middlesbrough
Cardiff
Blackpool
Burnley
Leeds
Derby
Hull
Leicester
Birmingham
Reading
Ipswich
Portsmouth
Brighton
Millwall
Peterborough
Crystal Palace
Barnsley
Nott'm Forest
Watford
Bristol City
Coventry
Doncaster

Agree with most of that, apart from perhaps Derby and Reading.

Was on the train back north last week and speaking to a Derby fan, they don't reckon they're budgets much at all. They've cleared all the top earners out, and have brought in people like Theo Robinson, and a couple of Scottish players from lower end clubs. Reading supposedly have a wage cap in place, which is (if you believe broad opinion) somewhere between 8-10k a week, and they're outlay compared to funds recieved was next to nothing.

On the basis we spent £4.5m this summer, if you trimmed that down to the equivalent spend compared to most teams (say £1m), that's an extra £3.5 million outlay, or around 60k a week added to our wage bill.

 

[Acker79]

Aren't leicester quite rich? I'd have thought they'd be top 5.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

Aren't leicester quite rich? I'd have thought they'd be top 5.

Not now, they're not!

 

[Husty]

Link?

I do not have one, but it was 100% said by Bloom.

 

[Uncle C]

What many of you are forgetting is that we got quite a lot of money in for Bennett etc. so, the overall expenditure is less than you are guessing.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

You can't blame Keith Hill for thinking it's the case when he sees us paying £1m plus for 3 different strikers.

For what it's worth, I think he's a very decent manager. His Rochdale side were one of the few teams we didn't beat last season, and I was impressed yesterday that Barnsley stuck to playing football even when they were 2-0 down. I must admit, I came into the game expecting them to be a dull, stereotypical Northern long ball team, and was pleasantly surprised that wasn't the case. I'm sure there will be plenty of worse teams than them this season, it's just a question of whether they can either (a) find a decent striker to get on the end of their moves, or (b) work on their long range shooting, which was frequent, but useless.

 

[Simon Morgan]

We are obviously not that low down as the transfer fees spent in the summer clearly demonstrate. But I do suspect we pay less in wages than quite a few other teams in this division.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I do not have one, but it was 100% said by Bloom.

As has already been pointed out and confirmed, that was in league one. Read earlier posts

 

[WhingForPresident]

I have a lot of time for Keith Hill, seems like a decent and knowledgeable chap.
However, what point is he trying to make here? It isn't really any of his concern what our budget is, and my suggestion to him would be that if you have a small budget, don't go wasting wages on players like f***ing Craig Davies.

 

[Exiled in Exeter]

Link?

This is the closest I can find at the moment.

Bloom told BBC Sussex: "Next season we will be aiming for the top six. I'm not saying we're going to get there or putting any pressure on. We'll be in a fantastic stadium. We'll aim high and see where we get to."

BBC Sport - Football - Brighton chairman Tony Bloom targets Premier League

 

[Thunder Bolt]

This is the closest I can find at the moment.

Bloom told BBC Sussex: "Next season we will be aiming for the top six. I'm not saying we're going to get there or putting any pressure on. We'll be in a fantastic stadium. We'll aim high and see where we get to."

BBC Sport - Football - Brighton chairman Tony Bloom targets Premier League

That article doesn't mention the budget anywhere, just the club's ambition.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

And I suspect that Vicente alone would be on of the top earners in the entire division

Really? I doubt he's even in the top 20!

 

[Acker79]

This is the closest I can find at the moment.

Bloom told BBC Sussex: "Next season we will be aiming for the top six. I'm not saying we're going to get there or putting any pressure on. We'll be in a fantastic stadium. We'll aim high and see where we get to."

BBC Sport - Football - Brighton chairman Tony Bloom targets Premier League

The most I can find regarding budgets is Bloom telling a Q&A that it would be a 'competitive budget'.

 

[kevtherev]

Remember when we were told over the sum we'd have a top 6 budget? Well that doesn't magically turn into 17th does it...

Perhaps he is not including vicente,buckley,hoskins,lualua in his maths.Seeing as all of them arnt playing regular and have taken a chunk of the budget.Take those away then we are 17th.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

According to what I assume is your FM2012 data, Vicente's on £15k a week. Are you saying that 'average' players at Southampton are on £45k?

FWIW I can believe that we're not, overall, one of the top wage payers in this division. But I don't think making us out as some kind of paupers is right either.

Can't see that either.

I'm sure they're paying plenty- Jose Fonte, for example, wouldn't have signed for a League One club (as they were then) from a Championship club for rubbish wages. Lambert is probably on a decent whack, if only to pay for his pie bill, and players like Jack Cork will be well reimbursed as they were signed from Premier League teams.

But they're not (surely?) paying £45k per week to anyone.

 

[sten_super]

What's happened here? My post that Edna quotes above has disappeared, along with Turkey's that I quoted, and possibly others as well. Bizarre.