Bannergate: In the cold light of day

[TotallyFreaked]

A banner that nobody understands the meaning and actually is taken as an insult (whether it is or not) is obviously a bit misplaced. However I actually think Ipswich fans are a decent bunch and feel welcome at their ground and town. Generally their team play attractive passing football very similar to ours and made for a great match and revenge for earlier in the season.

 

[TheJasperCo]

I can't help but giggle at the nonplussed fans craning their necks round to try and make out what it reads. I swear I can also see other Ipswich fans looking away in embarrassment.

Cringey stuff, to say the least.

 

[ferring seagull]

We may well have taken exception to the banners on Saturday however we must acknowledge that the vast majority of ordinary Ipswich Town fans were less than comfortable with what happened.

Let's not therefore start a never ending hate thing with ITFC which, after all like BHAFC, is a good solid club with no history of disagreeable fans etc. - well no history in fact.

Sorry I posted this on the wrong thread originally !

 

[Fungus]

If Ernest can't figure IT out, I doubt any WON will be ABLE to.

Ipswich fellows, who are obviously somewhat embarrassed and befuddled by it, still declare it's us who are getting too hot under the collar and making a big thing about it!
Yeah, of course it's our fault!

They also maintain it was 5 or 6 errant Town who made the 'protest' or whatever it's supposed to be.
In my opinion (which is a very important and righteous one), there are MANY more than 6 fans at least in some compliance with that effort.

They deserve a proper going over, and they should take it, without vaseline, and be thankful they aren't playing us again this season.
This.

Mods! He "This'd" his own post - ban him!

 

[Bwian]

So he DOES exist!?

He was at Anfield last weekend

 

[Medwayseagull]

The whole thing is a storm in a tea cup. The professional game is impacted by corporate sponsorship to a greater or lesser degree. If Ipswich don't want any corporate sponsorship let them - their fans will soon revolt if already high ticket prices double as a result.

 

[banjo]

Still don't understand what it's meant to mean or what is the point of it

Me to !

 

[NMH]

Mods! He "This'd" his own post

This.

ban him!

Not this.

 

[mona]

"Get a grip. Completely harmless banner!"

 

[Twinkle Toes]

Well I certainly won't vilify the vast majority of Ipswich fans because of the actions of a minority of complete tools yesterday. I just hope the proper supporters get those Sixth Form Revolutionaries well away from their club before they stir up any further grief for the already baffled, bemused & bewildered. You never know, it might even have a positive effect on the fortunes of their terminally under-performing football team.

 

[KneeOn]

Somewhere in there is a point. How would we feel if the Goldstone was renamed the Amex Goldstone? However these days it is hopelessly naive (I'd be interested to hear Attila's point of view). No club these days can afford to turn away a major source of income. (Aside from the fact that apparently most of that income is directed into Albion In The Community projects).

How many clubs these days haven't taken the corporate or benefactors shilling re naming their stands?

Okay so imagine Stamford Bridge, Old Trafford or Anfield are being renamed, or yes, even the gold stone.

It'd be a travasty. The sign "This is Anfield" is iconic. A bit of footballing history.

However, although already having 14 years of history and it's not even a year old, what real history does the name "Community Stadium" or "Falmer Stadium" have?

Arsenal wouldn't dream of renaming Highbury. A classic, historical ground with a classic, historical name. But what about Ashton Grove. That name has NO history at all. SO sponsership isn't so bad.

So there is a lot of money in football, and a lot of people get shafted however sticking a brand in front of a name which as little meaning... is it the worst thing in football? EPPP sounds much more malicious and a worthwhile fight (which the ITFC fans had a banner for at the end of the game).

 

[Ken Livingstone Seagull]

If Ernest can't figure IT out, I doubt any WON will be ABLE to.

Ipswich fellows, who are obviously somewhat embarrassed and befuddled by it, still declare it's us who are getting too hot under the collar and making a big thing about it!
Yeah, of course it's our fault!

They also maintain it was 5 or 6 errant Town who made the 'protest' or whatever it's supposed to be.
In my opinion (which is a very important and righteous one), there are MANY more than 6 fans at least in some compliance with that effort.

They deserve a proper going over, and they should take it, without vaseline, and be thankful they aren't playing us again this season.
This.

Class post, Mr. Nice, finely crafted.

 

[Ken Livingstone Seagull]

Arsenal wouldn't dream of renaming Highbury. A classic, historical ground with a classic, historical name. But what about Ashton Grove. That name has NO history at all. SO sponsership isn't so bad.

Granted, Ashton Grove doesn't have a lot of history or classic name ... as opposed to Ashton Gate.

In any event, some Bristol City fans might disagree with you there.

As for Highbury, I predict that all it'll take is some tin pot Middle Eastern-Gulf Region airline to come knockin'. Mark my words.

 

[dingodan]

If there are some things money CAN'T buy.

And FOOTBALL is NOT one of those things.

Then FOOTBALL is something that money CAN buy?


I believe this constitutes a FAIL, and warrants one of these badboys

 

[llugaes]

Granted, Ashton Grove doesn't have a lot of history or classic name ... as opposed to Ashton Gate.

In any event, some Bristol City fans might disagree with you there.

As for Highbury, I predict that all it'll take is some tin pot Middle Eastern-Gulf Region airline to come knockin'. Mark my words.

ashburton grove was the name of the emirates before they got the sponsorship deal.

 

[trueblue]

It's all a load of pie in the sky nonsense. I couldn't give a toss what the stadium's called (might draw the line at The Tampax Bowl I suppose... but you know what I mean). Football club's need money and lots of it, so what's the problem - exploit every resource possible.

It's always happened to a certain degree anyway. Granted, it would have been largely local businesses ploughing money into smaller clubs in the past but the world's changed. It's obviously passed a few muppets in Ipswich by but apparently these days some people even go on holiday to foreign countries.... shocking..

If you run a Sunday League side and the local butcher buys you a kit and pays for your travel, what's the difference? Does that have to be turned down too?

 

[The Fifth Column]

If there are some things money CAN'T buy.

And FOOTBALL is NOT one of those things.

Then FOOTBALL is something that money CAN buy?


I believe this constitutes a FAIL, and warrants one of these badboys

Or perhaps that was the message? That football is being bought out by companies like Amex? No that American Express have that kind of involvement with the Albion, they simply have the naming rights to the stadium and a very good deal for us it has proved to be. I'm fairly certain there is no particular ground swell of support against American Express amongst Albion fans. I think the message would be better aimed at clubs with dodgy russian/asian 'businessmen' in charge or with superficially large sponsorship deals such as Man City's which has been engineered to help them circumvent financial fair play regulations. Can't see why anyone would want to take a pop at our business model with a self made multi-millionaire whose family has had links with the club for decades pumping his own money into the club he has supported all his life to the benefit of us all not to mention the boost to the local economy it has given. A FAIL for the banner people on a massive scale i'm afraid.

 

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

Its odd because the second banner was against the new academy systems, ours will cost a few million, however isn't this being sponsored by Mercedes and not AMEX....

I wonder what Ipswich make/have made in sponsorship compared to us over the years and who is involved with them.

 

[KneeOn]

Granted, Ashton Grove doesn't have a lot of history or classic name ... as opposed to Ashton Gate.

In any event, some Bristol City fans might disagree with you there.

As for Highbury, I predict that all it'll take is some tin pot Middle Eastern-Gulf Region airline to come knockin'. Mark my words.

I actually think you could consider this proof of my point.

I meant Ashburton Grove, the name pre-sponsorship for the Emirates. So obscure I didn't even remember it.

Note that Highbury was the name that Arsenal didn't change, until they moved away. Ala Bhafc, you mark my words Liverpool won't just have "Stanley Park" but some corperate sponsored name. However will they sell naming rights to Anfield?

 

[The Large One]

If there are some things money CAN'T buy.

And FOOTBALL is NOT one of those things.

Then FOOTBALL is something that money CAN buy?


I believe this constitutes a FAIL, and warrants one of these badboys

I think they mean 'football shouldn't be one of them...'

In an ideal world - etc. etc.