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Banged Up Abroad



tedebear

Legal Alien
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
17,117
In my computer
Stupid people IMHO - carrying anything illegal is idiocy.....no sympathy from me whether they knew exactly what it was or not....
 






Seagull Stew

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2003
1,416
Brighton
But is such a sentence justifiable though?

If you compare it to violent crimes or even child abuse.
 


Northstander

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2003
14,031
Seagull_Stew said:
But is such a sentence justifiable though?

If you compare it to violent crimes or even child abuse.

Why dont you ask some parents in low income area's whose kids are doing this shit!

:nono:
 


Seagull Stew

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2003
1,416
Brighton
The Northstander said:
Why dont you ask some parents in low income area's whose kids are doing this shit!

:nono:

But do you not think the actual crime of the couple was that of stupidity and false trust, rather than an attempt to make profit from the misery of others.

Had they known from the start what they would actually be carrying then no amount of money would probably have tempted them. When they received the package, there was really no turning back.

It is a serious crime, and such a program reminds you of that fact, but I still can't help feeling more sympathy for those two than I would for someone who receives a lesser sentence for, let's say, abusing children.
 




Northstander

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Oct 13, 2003
14,031
I dont a f*** about those idiots, its the people they are feeding this shit with that bothers me!

People lets fortunate than ourselves who rely on people like this to bring this crap in for an escape out of the poor lives they are in!
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,097
The Northstander said:


People lets fortunate than ourselves who rely on people like this to bring this crap in for an escape out of the poor lives they are in!

What, like drinkers?
 


tedebear

Legal Alien
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
17,117
In my computer
Seagull_Stew said:
But do you not think the actual crime of the couple was that of stupidity and false trust, rather than an attempt to make profit from the misery of others.

Had they known from the start what they would actually be carrying then no amount of money would probably have tempted them. When they received the package, there was really no turning back.

It is a serious crime, and such a program reminds you of that fact, but I still can't help feeling more sympathy for those two than I would for someone who receives a lesser sentence for, let's say, abusing children.

But say the gear they were carried killed your child? (Hypothetical question) Isn't the sentence supposed to reflect and create a deterance in society?

Also - its hard to say what an appropriate sentence really is in this day and age....what you believe should be a 2 year term, to someone else may be seen as deserving 10 years...its all subjective....
 




Napper

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Jul 9, 2003
24,453
Sussex
The Northstander said:
I dont a f*** about those idiots, its the people they are feeding this shit with that bothers me!

People lets fortunate than ourselves who rely on people like this to bring this crap in for an escape out of the poor lives they are in!

cant beat a decent bit of coke at the weekend
 




H block

New member
Jul 10, 2003
1,345
Worthing
The Northstander said:
I dont a f*** about those idiots, its the people they are feeding this shit with that bothers me!

People lets fortunate than ourselves who rely on people like this to bring this crap in for an escape out of the poor lives they are in!

I can see you are very knowledgable about the modern drug culture.
Perhaps you could enlighten us all on the effects that class A drugs have had on you or any of your close associates.
 




H block

New member
Jul 10, 2003
1,345
Worthing
tedebear said:
But say the gear they were carried killed your child? (Hypothetical question) Isn't the sentence supposed to reflect and create a deterance in society?

Also - its hard to say what an appropriate sentence really is in this day and age....what you believe should be a 2 year term, to someone else may be seen as deserving 10 years...its all subjective....

So if a child is hurt or killed (god forbid) after drinking cider and vodka consumed illegally on a park bench do we inprison the manager of the off license for ten years. .... and what if that same child becomes an alcoholic and then pursues a life of crime to fuel there alcoholism ?
 


algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
I wouldn't dream of breaking the law abroad as the punishment seems far more severe then here.Watch Midnight Express.Very good film about being caught in Turkey,drug smuggleing
 


H block

New member
Jul 10, 2003
1,345
Worthing
I think too many people in society actually believe baristers and solicitors in courtrooms who defend their clients by saying '' My client commited these crimes because he or she has a drug problem and needed money to buy their next hit''

Its crap.

They are scum bags who would commit crimes anyway whether they were on drugs or not.

Putting someone away for 10 years for smuggling a few kilos of coke is crazy when you think a child molester or rapist would get no more.It is a purely personal choice as to whether you want to do any sort of drug and though of course there are dangers in getting a ''bit fond of it'' very few people get into it without realising the down sides.
 




H block

New member
Jul 10, 2003
1,345
Worthing
algie said:
I wouldn't dream of breaking the law abroad as the punishment seems far more severe then here.Watch Midnight Express.Very good film about being caught in Turkey,drug smuggleing

Quite agree but look at Thailand where you could get 10 years plus for smuggling dope but the government up to quite recently turned a blind eye to all the disgusting middle aged perverts who came to their country in the pursuit of young boys and girls making theirr living working as prostitutes.
 


Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
Interesting subject. A mate of mine is currently locked up in portugal for coke smuggling and is due to get sentenced next week. Obviously no details on here, but he first did it because he owed about five grand to the wrong people, so he was offered the chance to clear his debt and get a bit of a payoff for going to Brazil and bringing back some gear, via portugal, in a modified suitcase. After he got through easily the first time, I think it was like easy mony for him, so did it again, but he got caught on his third run. Lots of people told him not to keep doing it, but he got greedy and is now paying the price.

P.S If anyone is interested about life in a Thai prison then read 'The damage done'.
 


H block

New member
Jul 10, 2003
1,345
Worthing
Billy the Fish said:
Interesting subject. A mate of mine is currently locked up in portugal for coke smuggling and is due to get sentenced next week. Obviously no details on here, but he first did it because he owed about five grand to the wrong people, so he was offered the chance to clear his debt and get a bit of a payoff for going to Brazil and bringing back some gear, via portugal, in a modified suitcase. After he got through easily the first time, I think it was like easy mony for him, so did it again, but he got caught on his third run. Lots of people told him not to keep doing it, but he got greedy and is now paying the price.

P.S If anyone is interested about life in a Thai prison then read 'The damage done'.


Could never do it myself.
I get nervous going through the 10 items or less aisle in Tesco,s if I have one extra item.
 


macky

Well-known member
Dec 28, 2004
1,653
the pair of them together
couldnt have been stupid enough to think someone was going to pay that much
to bring a couple of kilos of puff
back
they knew what they were doing
just never thought they would get caught
greed pure and simple
 




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