[News] Ban gangsta rap as offensive to many people ?

[lawros left foot]

Gonna have to ban the whole Despardo album by the Eagles, and I quite like that.

 

[Razzoo]

But they're not banned though are they? Gone with the Wind is returning with a caveat attached. Nobody is going to arrest you for owning a Little Britain dvd.

But your argument was don't watch it you don't like.I agree totally. It's your choice. That's called being free. Who are these puritans who control what is allowed? Call me melodramatic but this is the thin end of the wedge.

 

[Razzoo]

Everything can be flipped and there are some out there who have been waiting for this opportunity. Its all fair game now. The dear old snowflakes and politically correct are in their element. The trouble is...it will spiral out of control.

Indeed, we are on a slippery slope.

 

[Insel affe]

So...use of the ' N ' word is acceptable then?

Where did I say that ?

Plenty of white musicians have used the "N" word in their lyrics.

Why do people want to ban it now, it smacks of white privilege, not all gangsta rap is the same or advocate hatred towards women or other minority groups. You can't ban a whole genre.

Back in the day there was a working class music called Oi, now it was a form of hard core punk really, elements of the right wing also had several bands playing that style like Screwdriver and they were clearly racist and they obviously got banned from the airwaves, but still continued underground and became a cult band, that is exactly what you would do with this..

I have not anywhere said I agree with anything you have suggested (quite wrong of you to do that actually)

 

[brightn'ove]

Thankyou . I would like to make very clear to anyone that is keen to shout me down that I have no issue with removing offensive statues and I am in total agreement that some BAME people ( not including me but I guess I would qualify ) do experience racism that is unfair and wrong . But that doesn’t in my mind preclude me from looking at peoples feelings from all walks of life .

The thing is there is a difference between depiction of heinous acts, and actually committing heinous acts.

Gangster Rap and Grime (two very broad churches by the way, they contain many sub genres) depict the scenes and struggles that the people who write the lyrics live through, or the scenes that they know their peers have had to deal with. Think of it like a painting, a poem, or a fictional book / film. If a musician commits some horrible act themselves (eg. Gary Glitter or Singer from Lost Prophets etc) then yes, they deserve to have their legacy erased.

These statues celebrate people who actually committed horrific crimes against humanity. I can understand the argument for removing them and instead displaying them, in proper context, in a museum.

 

[studio150]

There is no underlying motivation , I simply put it out there , that if we are going to be doing in effect a big clean up then why don’t we look at other issues that effect lots of people and are upsetting . For instance I personally don’t think anyone should use the N word to describe a black person even if you happen to be black yourself . It’s still offensive surely .

So you want this banned?

 

[schmunk]

Doesn't make him unaware of it, though. I know falling off a cliff hurts, so I avoid it.

You're suggesting we should ban "falling off cliffs"?

You should start a petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/check

 

[schmunk]

Ga**on alert

Shhh, you're not allowed to use the "G word" these days; it is offensive to pinks.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Why am I offensive ? Oh is it because I’m not simply following the herd or what you read in the Guardian ?

Explain why he is being offensive, when he is just asking a question.

Chill out, fellas. It was just BANTER.

FFS – bloody righty snowflakes

 

[Grombleton]

I’m not an expert but any music that glorifies gang violence and features guns and knifes in videos in an aggressive manner . Does that mean I’m out of touch ?

The problem being is that any music has glorification of illegal/distasteful things to some extent: we'd have to lose Metal music, dance music, punk etc etc.

I think the main thing about banning things and not banning things is picking the battle without making the situation worse. The recent events haven't exactly shown that in a good light, granted.

 

[sydney]

Indeed, we are on a slippery slope.

my heartfelt feeling is they can all shove it up their collective , miserable , humourless , easily outraged , constantly offended, frequently irate quoights....

 

[BrickTamland]

Shhh, you're not allowed to use the "G word" these days; it is offensive to pinks.

My mistake. Apologies to the offended

 

[sydney]

some of you pratts really need to travel a bit...ffs

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

There's a lot of race-obsession going around at the moment, and you seem to be in the thick of it.

On topic, I just choose not to listen to it, in the main because it is absolute shit.

Just doing my bit to oppose it. See Edmund Burke's letter to Thomas Mercer. Sadly I'm insufficiently a 'good man' to to engage with it properly, and limit my activies in the main to mocking people I have previously put on ignore. Sad to say I added the intrepid undertaker to that list today.

Agree with your comment about 'absolute shit' though

 

[Chicken Run]

Just doing my bit to oppose it. See Edmund Burke's letter to Thomas Mercer. Sadly I'm insufficiently a 'good man' to to engage with it properly, and limit my activies in the main to mocking people I have previously put on ignore. Sad to say I added the intrepid undertaker to that list today.

Agree with your comment about 'absolute shit' though

You mean you ignore people, **** me you never said!

 

[Swansman]

I think humans are a bit offensive and think we should get rid of them

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

But your argument was don't watch it you don't like.I agree totally. It's your choice. That's called being free. Who are these puritans who control what is allowed? Call me melodramatic but this is the thin end of the wedge.

I think your're being melodramatic. Again. You're sounding like a nascent Victor Meldrew. Get a grip man

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

But that can easily be flipped to Little Britain, Gone With the Wind etc. Who is the judge of what to ban?

Well, they're not banned, just that the BBC has chosen not to host Little Britain on its streaming service, in the same way that it has decided not to play violent gangsta rap on its radio stations. You can't accuse it of being biased in that sense.

Overall though, art traditionally explores ideas that are taboo to many, be it music, film, paintings, books or whatever. It can be uncomfortable and it can inflame passions, many will choose not to interact with the more extreme depictions of all sorts of practices, whether it is violence, rape, misogyny, racism, pornography, anarchy, blasphemy and so on. But banning art of any kind has always been problematic, and civilized society generally prefers to simply provide content warnings, ensure experiencing it is a choice, and try and restrict its access to minors.

If you want to follow by saying statues are art, well there's an argument in favour of that, but there are counter-arguments that statues commemorating people and events are more 'non-fiction' than 'fiction', so to speak; or that, as in the examples above, viewing controversial art should be a choice.

 

[Mr Bridger]

 

[Insel affe]

I think humans are a bit offensive and think we should get rid of them

I think there should be a re set button yes, next time round, no religion, no racial or ethnic boundaries.....

Lovely idea, but power and greed are inherently inbreed in some people, so it would again be divide and rule at some point (probably based on musical taste)....

So yeah if i knew there was a suicide cloud that would envelope the whole earth, that would kill everyone painlessly i'd be up for that.