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Chicken Run

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Jul 17, 2003
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This was sent to me the other day, i'm not sure whether I agree with this what do others think?





>Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:37 AM
>Subject: THREE CHEERS FOR AUSTRALIA
>
>
> Subject: THREE CHEERS FOR AUSTRALIA
>
> Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on
> Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted
> radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
>
> A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to
> Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he
>and
> his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.
>
> Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted
>that
> some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did
> not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made
> by Parliament.
>
> "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has
>Sharia
> law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said
>on
> national television.
>
> "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws
> governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another
>the
> Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary
> law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and
> have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it,
> perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.
>
> Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he
> said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to
> the other country.
>
> Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims
> who did not want to accept local values should "clear off".
>
> "Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't
> want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then
>they
> can basically clear off," he said. Separately, Howard angered some
> Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies
> monitoring the nation's mosques.
>
> Britain ..... ARE YOU LISTENING?
>
>
> Quote:
>
> IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.
> Take It Or Leave It I am tired of this nation worrying about whether
>we
> are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist
>attacks
> on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority
>of
> Australians.
>
> However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
> "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility
> that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against
>immigration,
> nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life
>by
> coming to Australia .
>
> However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to
> our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.
>
> This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served
>only
> to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As
>Australians,
> we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our
>own
> lifestyle.
>
> This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles,
> trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought
> freedom. We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic,
> Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if
>you
> wish to become part of our society, Learn the language!
>
> Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right
> wing, political push but a fact because Christian men and women, on
> Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
> documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls
>of
> our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider
>another
> part of the world as your new home, Because God is part of our
> culture.
>
> We will accept your beliefs and will not question why, all we ask is
> that you accept ours and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with
> us.
>
> If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go",
> then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this
> planet.
>
> We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we
> really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all
> means keep your culture but do not force it on others.
>
> This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow
> you every opportunity to enjoy all this.
> But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our
> Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I
>highly
> encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
> "THE RIGHT TO LEAVE".
>
> If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come
> here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.
>
> Pretty easy really, when you think about it.
>
>
> PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE, PERHAPS WE CAN CREATE A GROUND
>SWELL
> AND SEND OUR UK POLITICIANS THE MESSAGE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF US
> BELIEVE AS THE AUSSIES DO.........
>
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The Clown of Pevensey Bay

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Jul 5, 2003
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I think Peter Costello's a fascist wanker, to be honest. And he's talking crap about Australia being secular. Everyone in power is either an Anglican or a Catholic. The two factions tend to dislike each other.

There are plenty of religious schools, as well.
 


Jesus Gul

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Feb 23, 2004
5,513
Lebanese is not a language.

Was out with a crowd of Lebanese last night. Christians I may add. They can party and as for the girls.....:p :p :p. Very classy lot.

They generally spoke arabic but some opted for English and even French.

Speaking to a guy who got married 2 days after the war started and had to return to the UAE via Syria (he had vowed never to set foot in the country but ended up spending part of his honeymoon there!!).

Also this posh bird with dual UK/Leb nationality who was on the evacuation boat to Cyprus!!
 


Wozza

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Jul 6, 2003
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chicken run said:
> PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE, PERHAPS WE CAN CREATE A GROUND
>SWELL
> AND SEND OUR UK POLITICIANS THE MESSAGE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF US
> BELIEVE AS THE AUSSIES DO.........

I'm proud that, as a nation, we're not as racist as Australia.
 
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Les Biehn

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Aug 14, 2005
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I never presumed Australia had anymore of a racist problem than Britain but 3 people in the last year have told me it is the most racist country they have ever been to. Still I will wait and see for myself if I ever go.
 




Wozza

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Stumpy Tim said:
Bit of a clueless comment that I'm afraid...Britain has a racist problem, as does Australia

Of course, but it's much more open in Australia - you know, the government, the media, the average man on the street.
 
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Beach Hut

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Jul 5, 2003
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All the time we have major terrorist attacks racialism will remain worldwide.

What can you do ? The other day a young coloured chap was searched in front of everyone at the gateline at Victoria Underground. It looked a bit OTT being surrounded by four policeman and I suspect the potential issue was he was carrying a rucksack.
 


Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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That's no way to treat Sir Trevor McDonald, he deserves better.
 




Common as Mook

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Jul 26, 2004
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Australia is one of the most openly racist countries I've ever had the misfortune of visiting. The way they treat the INDIGENOUS aborigines(?) is truly disgusting.
 


Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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I'd have to agree with Wozza. It's not denying there is racism here in Britain, to say that it is far more overt in Oz. You run into it quicker as a visitor.

Whether their form or our slightly more hidden form is better or worse is another question.
 


Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
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When we lived in South Africa, we were told, "if you didn't like the place, then go back to your own country"

So we did.
 




hans kraay fan club

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Les Biehn said:
I never presumed Australia had anymore of a racist problem than Britain but 3 people in the last year have told me it is the most racist country they have ever been to. Still I will wait and see for myself if I ever go.

I have worked in Perth, Sydney and Melbourne. Can't speak for anywhere else, but this would be my take;

You have your fair dinkum Aussies [your Alf Stewarts if you like]. Mostly from a British descent. Some harbour barely disguised rascist attitudes to the large immigrant populations of Lebanese, greeks, indonesians, etc. Some it has to be said, do not.

The Italians, various Slavs, etc, who make up a significant portion of the population are pretty much completely accepted, bar a few jokes [There was an Italian, a Greek, and a .....]

The Alf Stewarts however, to a man, have a massively ingrained racist attitude to the aborigines. They geniunely see them as sub-human, and if it were not for an awareness of how the outside world was watching on, they would have been eradicated decades ago.

I have to stress that this is not just their Looneys and Oceanics either, it is all of them. Of course some are overtly racist, whereas some are quiet about it.

Here is a perfect example - a cousin of my wife. She is a lovely girl, university educated, [she is an architect, in fact] 27 years old. Irish parents but grew up in Australia, with a few summers in Ireland. She is completely liberal in her attitudes, and is now married to a great bloke, from Indonesia.

However, even she, the embodiment of modern Australia, cannot deny her contempt for the Abbos. Her take on it is that everything the government does for them is a waste of time and resources. 'All they want is to sit on their porches, drink and beat each other up'. She does not feel that any wholescale integration into society is either possible or beneficial.

They honestly consider them less than fully human.
 


Artois

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Jul 5, 2003
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Why is it with email forwards no one can be bothered to get rid of the stupid >'s and tidy it up a bit so it's easy to read, rather than had one word on it's own line in the middle of a paragraph.
 


hans kraay fan club

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Artois said:
Why is it with email forwards no one can be bothered to get rid of the stupid >'s and tidy it up a bit so it's easy to read, rather than had one word on it's own line in the middle of a paragraph.

Well done Artois - straight to the crux of the debate!:clap:
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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chicken run said:
This was sent to me the other day, i'm not sure whether I agree with this what do others think?

...


>
> Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims
> who did not want to accept local values should "clear off".
>
> "Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't
> want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then
>they
> can basically clear off," he said.


Gawd bless Australian politicians :lolol:
 




sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
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Was in a bar on a train in Australia and got talking to some Aussies. They quite openly were talking of Muslims as 'Towel heads' and 'Bomb chuckers', and I really couldn't believe how direct and open they were about it. One in the bollocks for the PC brigade I thought at the time.
 


Dandyman

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I don't mind Muslims, but I'd draw the line at any child of mine marrying an Aussie.
 


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