[Albion] Attwell

[pb21]

Was at the match but couldnt quite make out if Konsa should have got 2nd yellow for the altercation with Fati?

So was I, as far as I was concerned as soon as he laid his hands on him it was a yellow, although Fati instigated it Konsa certainly continued it.

Normally both players, the one instigating and the one retaliating, get booked. For some reason not in this case.

Generally ref was useless, coming up with all kinds of weird decisions, or non decisions. Absolutely no consistency.

Also, whatever happened to booking players for throwing/kicking the ball away, or preventing quick free kicks? Seems to have gone out of the window after a couple of games.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Normally both players, the one instigating and the one retaliating, get booked. For some reason not in this case.

Generally ref was useless, coming up with all kinds of weird decisions, or non decisions. Absolutely no consistency.

Also, whatever happened to booking players for throwing/kicking the ball away, or preventing quick free kicks? Seems to have gone out of the window after a couple of games.

Quite, and this pillock booked 3 of ours at Wolves for this.

 

[Scappa]

Irrespective of how well or otherwise we or anyone else play, PGMOL consistently fails to provide officials that match the standard of players on the pitch. It is not fit for purpose.

 

[jackalbion]

Normally both players, the one instigating and the one retaliating, get booked. For some reason not in this case.

Generally ref was useless, coming up with all kinds of weird decisions, or non decisions. Absolutely no consistency.

Also, whatever happened to booking players for throwing/kicking the ball away, or preventing quick free kicks? Seems to have gone out of the window after a couple of games.

Seems to only apply to our players at the moment

 

[Bodian]

One of their players was booked for kicking the ball away towards the end of the game.

Konsa would have got a yellow if he hadn't already had one - but as he didn't get one Fati shouldn't have been booked either, the foul itself was nothing worthy of a booking.

 

[GT49er]

Aston Villa won the game by themselves (or we lost it by playing badly, if you prefer) - but Attwell was making decisions to ensure there was a Plan B should Villa have not taken their chances. Yes, Villa won without the help of VAR - but the help was always there in case they needed it.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Aston Villa won the game by themselves (or we lost it by playing badly, if you prefer) - but Attwell was making decisions to ensure there was a Plan B should Villa have not taken their chances. Yes, Villa won withut the help of VAR - but the help was always there in case they needed it.

Agree with this. We were awful. Perhaps RDZ’s worst game managing us. But if we’d actually played one of our best games instead, I still think we’d have lost as ALL the officiating including Attwell was horrific.

 

[oldboyroy]

Stuart Pierce on commentary talk sport said we lost all the 50/50 decisions which on another day could of been given. He even fancied us to win when we pulled a goal back until of course, the 4th went in!

 

[Eeyore]

It's always us who get the bad and the corrupt officials- said the fans of all 20 Premier League clubs.

 

[Hotchilidog]

Nothing should detract from our poor performance today we need to learn from it. Yes the officiating was awful but I suspect we would have found a way to lose without his help. We have to defend better

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I concur. We were well beaten so no excuses but there were a string of dodgy decisions.

The 2nd and third goal, the lack of second yellow for Konsa, a few little fouls all over the pitch.

We didn't get the rub of the green today. But when you concede six, you've got to look at your performance not the ref's or his team.

Given there were so many goals it stands to reason a few would be questionable! Percentages etc.

 

[Icy Gull]

It's always us who get the bad and the corrupt officials- said the fans of all 20 Premier League clubs.

True, Liverpool must have been gutted that Stevie Wonder and Andrea Bocelli were on VAR for their game yesterday

 

[Eeyore]

True, Liverpool must have been gutted that Stevie Wonder and Andrea Bocelli were on VAR for their game yesterday

I think Andrea from the laundrette was on VAR yesterday.

 

[Eric Youngs Contact Lens]

Not quite sure why people seem to not want to debate ref decisions because somehow they are an excuse for a result. The OP has clearly suggested that they were not the reason we lost but they were debatable decisions, influential or not. MOTD tells us they were not influential (they didn’t mention them) but they are decisions worthy of questioning by us . Of course we often only debate them when we lose, but they are still decisions that highlight/question standard of referees atm and may have influenced the scale of the defeat on the same way that had Estupinan scored yesterday or Pedro on Wednesday before conceding we might have got different . Happy to agree with OP watching back this morning..

 

[Rookie]

Not a decision for VAR but I still don’t understand how grabbing a player near the neck (possibly around the neck?) is not a yellow card

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Not quite sure why people seem to not want to debate ref decisions because somehow they are an excuse for a result. The OP has clearly suggested that they were not the reason we lost but they were debatable decisions, influential or not. MOTD tells us they were not influential (they didn’t mention them) but they are decisions worthy of questioning by us . Of course we often only debate them when we lose, but they are still decisions that highlight/question standard of referees atm and may have influenced the scale of the defeat on the same way that had Estupinan scored yesterday or Pedro on Wednesday before conceding we might have got different . Happy to agree with OP watching back this morning..

Agree.

We would have lost 4-1 rather than 6.

But Madley is useless, we him at Wolves when we won and he was dreadful and yesterday he gave the same level of performance. Inconsistent throughout.

I simply do not understand why 7 games in, we have had the same official twice.
As for Attwell, he should be nowhere near VAR,….. as yesterday once again proved.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Not a decision for VAR but I still don’t understand how grabbing a player near the neck (possibly around the neck?) is not a yellow card

Or the challenges by McGinn in the first half, after he’d been booked.

 

[Icy Gull]

I think Andrea from the laundrette was on VAR yesterday.

Yeah, at our game

 

[Icy Gull]

Agree.

We would have lost 4-1 rather than 6.

But Madley is useless, we him at Wolves when we won and he was dreadful and yesterday he gave the same level of performance. Inconsistent throughout.

I simply do not understand why 7 games in, we have had the same official twice.
As for Attwell, he should be nowhere near VAR,….. as yesterday once again proved.

Wasn’t the fourth goal after the foul on March? We were totally on top at 3-1 and in my head a comeback was a possibility. That incompetent decision from the ref and VAR to let the goal stand put an end to that. Or am I getting confused?

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Wasn’t the fourth goal after the foul on March? We were totally on top at 3-1 and in my head a comeback was a possibility. That incompetent decision from the ref and VAR to let the goal stand put an end to that. Or am I getting confused?

Seriously Icy, I can’t remember the 4th being a foul (3rd was), we lost it cheaply and Steele got his angles wrong, but I was more hacked off when the rugby tackle on March (3rd) wasn’t penalised despite VAR.

If the argument on the 3rd is second phase, that’s basically bollocks.