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[Football] Assuming we appoint Graham Potter, your gut feeling on next season
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Horses Arse
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Better performances, more enjoyable to watch. 15th placed finish with one or two humbling defeats and unexpected wins. Something like that anyway.
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Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Get some decent forwards in, we'll be fine.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
If we can be *more Bournemouth than Burnley* I'd be very happy.
We'll walk before we can run though, so I suspect a 15th-16th place finish.
We'll walk before we can run though, so I suspect a 15th-16th place finish.
kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
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Another question might be: who would you most trust to keep us in the Premier League - Potter or Hughton? I think this is a huge gamble by TB. Despite coming close to going down, I think CH was unlucky with dud signings and injuries. And in the end he just about got the job done. He is tactically adept at nullifying the opposition. I think we will be on the end of a few 6-0's ourselves next season and could well end up doing a Fulham - trying to play expansive football but getting picked off by teams that are simply better than us.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Potter.
Hughton was in a downward spiral. A great 4+ years, a top manager, the right time to go before his legacy was tainted.
This is our Frank De Boer moment. We are doing a lot more than just changing our manager, we are changing our style of play aswell as hopefully giving youth a bit more opportunity. We have to be patient and back him through what I suspect will be a tough start to the season.
Basically if this time next year we finish 17th but are talking about our better style of play and the young players who have progressed this season then I would consider it a success.
Basically if this time next year we finish 17th but are talking about our better style of play and the young players who have progressed this season then I would consider it a success.
Seasider78
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- Nov 14, 2004
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Personally I think Hughton was taking us down if he stayed with his one dimensional defensive tactics and had been found out by the other premier league managers. So whilst I still expect to see us in a struggle next season I am expecting us to at least have a go at teams and the quality of our attacking play to improve vastly.
Dick Swiveller
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- Sep 9, 2011
- 9,533
More attacking meaning more joy against lower teams, more stuffings against Top 6 and occasionally Bournemouth type capitulations. But primarily more tactical fluidity and chances for U23 on the bench. Will definitely move the club on in terms of progression towards the U23 plan Bloom favours. But likely with a bigger risk of losing PL status.
Whilst I am very disappointed for Chris, this appointment completes the plan that the club have been trying to put in place for a while. Like everything Bloom does, it is a calculated gamble looking at the long term. We now have some maturing U23 players bought for relatively small amounts, a moneyball style recruitment setup looking for value/potential rather than names and a young, tactically astute English manager. The problem would seem to have been that we have building up this approach with a manager who errs on the side of caution. A few of the potential based signings haven't blossomed so CH went with his default position. Potter would seem to be the type of manager would would change things up in this situation and take some risks - maybe with youth. Given the outlook for Swansea at the start of last season, he would appear to have been relatively successful but this would seem to be a fairly new approach for the PL.
As I say, whilst very sad for Chris, I see where the club are trying to go and I applaud the vision. It is refreshing to try this with all of the other methods being used. Palace throw money at "names" leaving them very vulnerable on wages. Wolves seem to be bending the rules with knockdown stars. Fulham went for the scatter gun transfer policy. Huddersfield and Cardiff went with what they knew with a few low key signings. Burnley sign players that will help their route 1 style. We would appear to be trying a version of the Bournemouth policy - presumably without the massive spend.
I think this season will be make or break for this methodology. If we survive then the culture will have moved on quite quickly. Go down and the rumblings will make it hard to carry on in the same vein. Once thing Potter does bring that CH didn't is the high chance of being poached if he is successful.
Whilst I am very disappointed for Chris, this appointment completes the plan that the club have been trying to put in place for a while. Like everything Bloom does, it is a calculated gamble looking at the long term. We now have some maturing U23 players bought for relatively small amounts, a moneyball style recruitment setup looking for value/potential rather than names and a young, tactically astute English manager. The problem would seem to have been that we have building up this approach with a manager who errs on the side of caution. A few of the potential based signings haven't blossomed so CH went with his default position. Potter would seem to be the type of manager would would change things up in this situation and take some risks - maybe with youth. Given the outlook for Swansea at the start of last season, he would appear to have been relatively successful but this would seem to be a fairly new approach for the PL.
As I say, whilst very sad for Chris, I see where the club are trying to go and I applaud the vision. It is refreshing to try this with all of the other methods being used. Palace throw money at "names" leaving them very vulnerable on wages. Wolves seem to be bending the rules with knockdown stars. Fulham went for the scatter gun transfer policy. Huddersfield and Cardiff went with what they knew with a few low key signings. Burnley sign players that will help their route 1 style. We would appear to be trying a version of the Bournemouth policy - presumably without the massive spend.
I think this season will be make or break for this methodology. If we survive then the culture will have moved on quite quickly. Go down and the rumblings will make it hard to carry on in the same vein. Once thing Potter does bring that CH didn't is the high chance of being poached if he is successful.
1066familyman
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- Jan 15, 2008
- 15,235
If you just left option 2 as.. A breath of fresh air... I'd vote for that. As it is, I've no idea how well we'll do, so I've left it.
I like the uncertainty. I'm more excited already than I ever was last season.
I like the uncertainty. I'm more excited already than I ever was last season.
blockhseagull
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Potter to me seems adaptable with the tools he has at his disposal.
He likes a passing game with an eye on counter attacking for sure but he seems to look at the players he has and get the best out of them.
He has worked with young, quick footballers this season at Swansea so has used them in a way that he feels gets the best out of them.
He will be walking into a slightly different squad here, and whilst I’m sure he footballing principles for passing and counter attacking will influence his approach, im sure he will have us playing in a way that uses our strengths and limits exposing our weaknesses.
I don’t believe for a second he will have us playing expansive attacking football leaving us exposed.
He likes a passing game with an eye on counter attacking for sure but he seems to look at the players he has and get the best out of them.
He has worked with young, quick footballers this season at Swansea so has used them in a way that he feels gets the best out of them.
He will be walking into a slightly different squad here, and whilst I’m sure he footballing principles for passing and counter attacking will influence his approach, im sure he will have us playing in a way that uses our strengths and limits exposing our weaknesses.
I don’t believe for a second he will have us playing expansive attacking football leaving us exposed.
As far as I'm aware the defense wasn't sacked along with Hughton so therefore as we witnessed when we did show some more intent last season, we didn't start leaking goals from all directions. I expect us to be "in" more games next season and not make every team we play look like World beaters.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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Voted other.
I hope there will be some pragmatism from him.
I think he is a very intelligent manager and I suspect he will realise, like Chris, that we will need a very strong defensive base.
He should know that we have the players to provide that.
The Frank de Boer example should loom large in any new manager's mind in regards to changing the way a Premier League team plays.
The expansive play that many on here want, may well take longer than they expect.
I hope there will be some pragmatism from him.
I think he is a very intelligent manager and I suspect he will realise, like Chris, that we will need a very strong defensive base.
He should know that we have the players to provide that.
The Frank de Boer example should loom large in any new manager's mind in regards to changing the way a Premier League team plays.
The expansive play that many on here want, may well take longer than they expect.
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father_and_son
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Don't believe we will suddenly become an amazing team overnight. However I believe he will correct some things wrong with the way we play/are set up and will make the club better for his tenure here.
Still believe we will be close to the relegation zone for most of the season but it will be better football to watch.
My ideal would be 'safe before April' but will be satisfied with seeing our academy start to pay off, seeing our recent signings given the chance to show what they are really worth and not walking out of the stadium feeling we didn't even try.
Still believe we will be close to the relegation zone for most of the season but it will be better football to watch.
My ideal would be 'safe before April' but will be satisfied with seeing our academy start to pay off, seeing our recent signings given the chance to show what they are really worth and not walking out of the stadium feeling we didn't even try.
I genuinely believe we will see a few decent signings and I predict 52 points
crodonilson
He/Him
You know, Tony knows, good business.
I’m backing GPot to do well, top 10 beckons.
I’m backing GPot to do well, top 10 beckons.
Unless we have new players with a lot more pace than the present team I can't see a huge difference. Pressure to finish 17th or better will override the desire to be like Fulham last season.