Ashley Cole - Engalnd career over?

[beorhthelm]

A good player, yes. But why is this best in the world thing so often dragged up? It's a bit insulting to be honest

yeah, how dare we in England say we have a top world class player, everyone knows all our players are underperformers.

except a good many international pundits, who do see all the worlds footballers rate him as the best. ok, maybe a fading force now knocking on 32, but for 5 years plus has been consistant top and widely recognised as best of the trade. why do we have to knock and put down our own? (probably find fault even if he wasnt a cock away from football)

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

which is what his position for England should be based on.

Disagree. I for one have huge issues with certain people representing my nation around the world. Have you ever thought how it makes us look?

 

[les dynam]

yeah, how dare we in England say we have a top world class player, everyone knows all our players are underperformers.

except a good many international pundits, who do see all the worlds footballers rate him as the best. ok, maybe a fading force now knocking on 32, but for 5 years plus has been consistant top and widely recognised as best of the trade. why do we have to knock and put down our own? (probably find fault even if he wasnt a cock away from football)

who outside of England called him the world's best? find me some evidence and i'll believe you... Ashley Cole has always been the world's most overrated left back in my opinion. he's completely and utterly one footed for starters - my right foot is better than his and i'm rubbish at football.

 

[beorhthelm]

who outside of England called him the world's best? find me some evidence and i'll believe you...

i cant be arsed to trawl for punditry quotes, is UEFA team of the year good enough? probably not. carry on knocking him.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

who outside of England called him the world's best? find me some evidence and i'll believe you... Ashley Cole has always been the world's most overrated left back in my opinion. he's completely and utterly one footed for starters - my right foot is better than his and i'm rubbish at football.

I tend to agree with this. If he was so briliant then other clubs would have come in for him. I do not recall many/any clubs making serious attempts to lure him away. And as you say, very very one footed. I'll concede he is very good at what he does but it stops there.

 

[BensGrandad]

i cant be arsed to trawl for punditry quotes, is UEFA team of the year good enough? probably not. carry on knocking him.

Well said but what would professional sports journalists know compared to NSC.

 

[studio150]

Not in the FIFA world XI for 2011 which probably trumps the UEFA XI

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Well said but what would professional sports journalists know compared to NSC.

Just because you're a journo it does not mean you know it all. You will probably have a better way with words and a better way with expressing yourself and your knowledge but to suggest they know more about the game is not necessarily true.

 

[BensGrandad]

They would have seen a lot more players a lot more times than anybody on here and as such be in a better position to form an opinion based on ability rather than personality.

 

[Chesney Christ]

Can we just knock the whole England thing on the head now?

I mean, seriously, is any aspect of it even REMOTELY enjoyable?

 

[beorhthelm]

And as you say, very very one footed. I'll concede he is very good at what he does but it stops there.

thats a bit like saying Messi is too short short and lightweight for defending set peices, but conceding he's very good at what he does do well.

 

[Pevenseagull]

he's said he's sorry now. That's alright then

 

[Marxo]

The fact that so many seem to hate him doesn't alter the fact that the FA say he's a liar, who wouldn't react angrily to that? I don't have strong feelings about him one way or the other, I probably wouldn't like him much if I new him but at least he sticks up for his mates.

 

[User removed 4]

I tend to agree with this. If he was so briliant then other clubs would have come in for him. I do not recall many/any clubs making serious attempts to lure him away. And as you say, very very one footed. I'll concede he is very good at what he does but it stops there.

There have been several clubs interested , no official bids i'll grant you, but then there havent been official bids for messi or xavi or iniesta , does that condemn this trio to one footed mediocrity in your book ? You're blinded by your dislike of chelsea or at least certain players there , and its plainly reflected in your biased and factually incorrect ravings.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

I tend to agree with this. If he was so briliant then other clubs would have come in for him. I

No one has made a bid to sign Messi.

Does that mean he's not the worlds best?

 

[Chesney Christ]

i cant be arsed to trawl for punditry quotes, is UEFA team of the year good enough? probably not. carry on knocking him.

And foreign managers seem to think so:

PSG boss Ancelotti: Ashley Cole is world's best left-back - Goal.com

You'd have to be a mad spastic to think Ashley Cole hasn't been a world class performer (probably England's only one) over the past 5 years. Its beyond debate to all but the terminably-drilling.

 

[les dynam]

They would have seen a lot more players a lot more times than anybody on here and as such be in a better position to form an opinion based on ability rather than personality.

Are you suggesting that because Andy Naylor works for The Argus he's a better judge of a player than anybody who reads NSC? Have you read his rambling nonsense in the Argus... this is the man who hailed Mick Adams 'the special one' when he returned. Special indeed.

I wish Cole and Terry would test themselves by playing overseas somewhere... preferably right in the middle of the Atlantic. Boom boom!

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

There have been several clubs interested , no official bids i'll grant you, but then there havent been official bids for messi or xavi or iniesta , does that condemn this trio to one footed mediocrity in your book ? You're blinded by your dislike of chelsea or at least certain players there , and its plainly reflected in your biased and factually incorrect ravings.

Beaten to it.

Also, on the Ashley Cole point, I don't think anyone is claiming he's not GOOD.

I was purely arguing the original statment that he is the best by a 'COUNTRY MILE'. He may be the best in your opinion (as theres not way to PROVE it), but he certainly isnt a 'country mile' better than Alba and Contrao and even Marcelo (though he cant really defend!).

 

[Chesney Christ]

I tend to agree with this. If he was so briliant then other clubs would have come in for him.

Agree completely. And why's everyone always banging about Xavi?!? He's shit. When has anyone EVER made a serious bid for him?

 

[les dynam]

And foreign managers seem to think so:

PSG boss Ancelotti: Ashley Cole is world's best left-back - Goal.com

You'd have to be a mad spastic to think Ashley Cole hasn't been a world class performer (probably England's only one) over the past 5 years. Its beyond debate to all but the terminably-drilling.

Let's see if he actually tries to sign him shall we... or he ends up buying a much better leftback for half the price from somewhere other than England