B.W.
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Ashley Barnes, The Latest: Ashley Barnes Signs for Burnley *Confirmation*
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TBH Wikipedia is inconsistent between its 2 pages! And others have even more favourable CMS stats.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Why not use the club site? Team- Player - Player history.
http://www.seagulls.co.uk/team/player-profile/index.aspx?playerid=220777&tcmuri=134913
Here you go:
CMS appeared played 2249 of 3362 league minutes prior to his long term injury. He scored eleven times in that period resulting in a rate of one goal every 204.5mins.
As he played 66.89% of the season before his injury, let's make an assumption he plays the same percentage of the reamining game time.
The reamining games, league and play offs, consisted of 1240mins. 66.89% of that is approximately 829.5mins
At a goal rate of one goal every 204.5mins, that means in 829.5mins he will score 4 goals.
CMS was therefore on target for 15 goals last season, before his long term injury.
CMS appeared played 2249 of 3362 league minutes prior to his long term injury. He scored eleven times in that period resulting in a rate of one goal every 204.5mins.
As he played 66.89% of the season before his injury, let's make an assumption he plays the same percentage of the reamining game time.
The reamining games, league and play offs, consisted of 1240mins. 66.89% of that is approximately 829.5mins
At a goal rate of one goal every 204.5mins, that means in 829.5mins he will score 4 goals.
CMS was therefore on target for 15 goals last season, before his long term injury.
Albumen
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Ha!
B.W.
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There are a lot of assumptions in there, but if you say so.
There are two assumptions:
1: That his goal scoring rate remains consistent
2: That his game time rate remains consistent.
Those are the same assumptions anyone makes when they make a crude "he scored this many in the first half of the season, ergo he'll score this many in the second half". Only I've used more accurate numbers.
Codner's Wallop
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True, but Barnes has always been bit of a Marmite player at the club. He's taken a bigger share of flak than others in the squad. Disciplinary lapses last season were really regrettable and fans were particularly fed up with these. The point I'm making is Barnes is unlikely to wish to leave because he takes stick from the supporters. If he was that sensitive he would have gone years ago and certainly turned down his last contract extension.
There won't be wads of cash on the table from Burnley. I hope he stays - if his head is right, he has the potential to become a very good player indeed.
Albumen
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Thunder Bolt
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Andy Naylor @AndyNaylorArgus 55s
News from Burnley that former #bhafc striker Sam Vokes has signed a new contract. Barnes would be third choice there, at least until summer.
It makes you wonder if Barnes was being 'used' as a bargaining tool by Burnley?
News from Burnley that former #bhafc striker Sam Vokes has signed a new contract. Barnes would be third choice there, at least until summer.
It makes you wonder if Barnes was being 'used' as a bargaining tool by Burnley?
BrianWade4
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The key point is that if he doesn't sign a contract extension , we need to get as much as possible now
I believe we have the cover in the squad with Buckley, Ulloa fit and CMS coming back
I believe we have the cover in the squad with Buckley, Ulloa fit and CMS coming back
B.W.
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Fair enough, but I would say that both are arguable. Nevertheless, 15 would still be good at this level, and not meriting disrespect from one of his alleged supporters.
Albumen
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Are you suggesting he doesn't run like a girl?
B.W.
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I feel a bit 
B.W.
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LoL! He runs very fast.
clippedgull
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Haven't read the thread in full but £1 million? Yes please. Barnes is not going to get any better than being an average Championship striker. We presumably have sights set on the Premiership and if we make it, we need to have quality players to keep us there. Barnes along with CMS are not those kind of players.
B.W.
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Seems a bit harsh. Barnes is improving all the time. And I'm not sure we've seen the best of CMS yet.
We all know Vokes is staying at Burnley long term however Ings is the one that the likes of Liverpool, West Ham, Spurs & some others may be interested in as a 3rd/4th/5th choice striker and one for the future to develop. Also, how likely is it Vokes and Ings remain injury free for the rest of the season? If he goes, Barnes is likely to be first choice at Burnley as far as I'm concerned and he is good enough too. Saying that I hope we get him to sign a long term contract with us.
clippedgull
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Barnes: I really want him to do well, but I just can't see him as improving enough to be a Premiership striker.
CMS: He didn't impress with Peterborough in the Championship first time round.Hasn't really set the Championship on fire (injury aside) since he has been with us. Also players that rely on pace don't always come back as good as previously, probably a mental thing re tweaking an old injury.
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HellBilly
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If he continues the season on season improvement he has made since arriving here I'd suggest he has a very good chance of getting into the Premier League. There are plenty of strikers who didn't make it until they were considerably older than Barnes. Too many people underrate AB and forget how young he still is.