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Ashes To Ashes - BBC 21:00 hrs Tonight
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jakarta
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Back in the late Autumn of 1988 my boss had a shagged out VW Scirocco and I had a an equally shagged out Ford Escort Mexico (too many owners with heavy right feet). Seeing as I had worked non-stop for the past year including most weekends I upped the ante & bought a 1600 Peugot 205 GTi on the strength of my overtime.
Within 2 weeks he had bought a new Quattro to put me in my Place......
Drove in it a few times but was never tossed the keys to see what that Gene Hunt 5 cylinder 4 wheel drive thing was all about - sounded ace I have to say.
He drives a People Carrier these days...... Mind you I drive an estate car so can't really comment
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
I think in some ways you are missing the point. As they did with LoM, certain aspects are allowed (meant?) to be anachronistic as it is meant to the creation of Alex Drake's mind. The music in both series was always a little 'flexible'.
And just to add... I thought tonight's episode was very good.
Papa.
andybaha
Active member
I think some of you take it all a bit too seriously. I've got hundreds of channels to choose from but most evenings I can't find anything to watch.
Ashes To Ashes is an hour of pure escapism. I think Gene Hunt is a brilliant character, I couldn't care less if Keeley Hawes can act or not. I like looking at her. The stories are weak as a cop show but they are meant to be part of a bigger story. I enjoy the nostalgia, the clothes and the music. Who gives a monkeys if Gene's Audi wasn't in production in 1982 or Chelsea only averaged 13,000 that season.
Ashes To Ashes is an hour of pure escapism. I think Gene Hunt is a brilliant character, I couldn't care less if Keeley Hawes can act or not. I like looking at her. The stories are weak as a cop show but they are meant to be part of a bigger story. I enjoy the nostalgia, the clothes and the music. Who gives a monkeys if Gene's Audi wasn't in production in 1982 or Chelsea only averaged 13,000 that season.
To a certain extent this is true. A2A is the first time that I've watched something non-sport related since The Apprentice last Weds and while it's not a patch on LoM, it's still very watchable.
But with so much effort going into getting things sooo right, I don't see why the people researching these things get other little things wrong.
Bevendean Hillbilly
New member
After what I thought was a disappointing last series I was gripped by A2A last night, I think the performances all round were stronger and the idea that whilst months have passed in 1982 only moments have passed in the present takes us back to LOM.
The storyline was obviously meant to point to something much bigger to come with Inspector "Supermack" at its rotten core and I love it!
Glenister is making the Hunt character more robust and thoughtful and the soundtrack is outstanding.
8/10
The storyline was obviously meant to point to something much bigger to come with Inspector "Supermack" at its rotten core and I love it!
Glenister is making the Hunt character more robust and thoughtful and the soundtrack is outstanding.
8/10
footychick
Nicola
Could someone please explain to me the story behind A2A as I'd never wached it before?
The Spanish
Well-known member
what a load of old cack. women want to f*** gene hunt and most blokes would ruin keeley hawes, even though she seems like she is dead inside. she has that amazing talent (like kate moss for example) of being incredibly attractive but utterly charmless.
That said it is much better because it does not have John f***ing Simm in it. The most dislikeable actor ever to have walked the earth. There is no point in comparing the two as they are both complete toilet.
That said it is much better because it does not have John f***ing Simm in it. The most dislikeable actor ever to have walked the earth. There is no point in comparing the two as they are both complete toilet.
Bevendean Hillbilly
New member
OK, here goes..
Keeley hawes is a Detective Sergeant in the present day who is shot in the head during an arrest. As she lies dying/bleeding on the ground she suddenly finds herself transported back to 1982 where she is working with DI Gene Hunt a proper 1970's /early 80's mysogynist cop and his squad of equally unenlightend detectives.
She has full recollection of who she really is and is constantly applying modern policing techniques like forensics and intelligence as well as challenging the rampant sexism and corruption in the force of Yesteryear. Personally I would be running around placing bets on Grand national races yet to be run and FA cup final results but she never seems to bother with that.
She has told DI Hunt that she believes that he and his world are figments of her wounded mind but he just retorts that she is a "Daft Bint" and tells her to get on with nicking villains.
She has weird flashbacks as her modern day self is discovered and treated by paramedics etc, these odd visions and sounds are often relayed to her by TV shows (Grange Hill last night) and occaisionally intrude into her 1982 life, she also is desperate to "wake up" back in the here and now where her daughter is waiting for her to recover.
It's a clever way of combining social commentary, nostalgia and "what if" telly.
The sub-plot this time around is that there is someone else in 1982 who knows who she is and when she is from and is sending her messages and trying to unsettle her by letting her know that he too is from the future (last night he sent her a message saying Pont de Alma in relation to Princess Diana..obviously only someone from a future 1997 would know about that.
Its notable as much for the antics of DI Hunt as for anything else and makes frequent reference to a pre-PC world that many miss.
Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
Think that is a spin on, We have been lazy and not done our research properly.
footychick
Nicola
An interesting concept.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Thought it was a bit unlikely how Alex brazenly wandered up to that gunman who was taking potshots from the balcony, then just stood there bold as brass in front of him to talk him round while he's brandishing a rifle.
And yes we know Hunt is a tough, uncompromisingly brash hard-man, but the way he was harangueing and abusing that widow from the moment she'd just been informed of her husbands death was a bit odd as well, being as it wasn't immediately apparent she was hiding something.
Othwerwise, it was ok. It does suffer from being half the show LOM was, but its still an oasis of quality and relief after the unbearable shitstorm of EE.
And yes we know Hunt is a tough, uncompromisingly brash hard-man, but the way he was harangueing and abusing that widow from the moment she'd just been informed of her husbands death was a bit odd as well, being as it wasn't immediately apparent she was hiding something.
Othwerwise, it was ok. It does suffer from being half the show LOM was, but its still an oasis of quality and relief after the unbearable shitstorm of EE.
I totally agree.
I think there are some things that can't be helped. For example, they might bend the rules over a car that wasn't available in 1982 because it looked good but, as I posted above, they go to so much effort to make things right, I can't believe they've been done deliberately.
I couldn't, for example, imagine Gene and the gang wandering around with mobile phones - but that would certainly be anachronistic.
Bevendean Hillbilly
New member
I think the fact that the Alex character takes risks like walking up to gunmen unarmed is supposed to illustrate that because she is in a fantasy world she cant really "die" there, or maybe she wants to to help her wake up in 2009.
The Hunt thing with the widow was a bit OTT though.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Fair point. I hadn't thought about it like that.
I just love Ray Carling. He is so stuck in the 70's and the fact that maybe the world is changing simply passes him by, or rather he notices it but doesn't want to change with it. The "perks" of the job i.e sleeping with hookers, the back handers, the beating of suspects are simply disappearing and poor old Ray is gripping onto them for dear life.
You can just imagine that by the early 90's Ray will be pensioned off early by the force whilst the smoking ban in 2007 will finally finish off his old heart.
You can just imagine that by the early 90's Ray will be pensioned off early by the force whilst the smoking ban in 2007 will finally finish off his old heart.
The Spanish
Well-known member
i think if you want to watch rogue coppers who bend the rules but get results, attractive female detectives, zippy eighties motors and punch ups in derelict dockyards, then just watch fcuking Dempsey and Makepeace repeats on ITV4. Its the real mccoy, and not reeking of smug BBC self congratulation.
Sweeney Todd
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The soundtrack was provided by Duran Duran, Adam & The Ants, Fun Boy Three, Kraftwerk, ABC, Haircut 100, The Specials, Hot Chocolate and Human League.
franks brother
Well-known member
Songs I caught on this week's episode:
Fun Boy Three - The Lunatics Have Taken Over the Asylum
Duran Duran - Rio
Haircut 100 - Love Plus One
ABC - The Look of Love
Adam and the Ants - Stand and Deliver
Kraftwerk - The Model
The Specials - Rat Race
Hot Chocolate - You Sexy Thing
The Human League - Mirror Man
Good episode by the way.
Fun Boy Three - The Lunatics Have Taken Over the Asylum
Duran Duran - Rio
Haircut 100 - Love Plus One
ABC - The Look of Love
Adam and the Ants - Stand and Deliver
Kraftwerk - The Model
The Specials - Rat Race
Hot Chocolate - You Sexy Thing
The Human League - Mirror Man
Good episode by the way.