[Technology] Artificial Intelligence

[The Clamp]

Nothing new though? We’ve been headed towards automation since The Jetsons aired.

But okay, I’ll concede some jobs will become less reliant on hoomans.

Will we have more leisure time and a BUI to help those made redundant by the machines?

Or will millions be culled or left to starve?

 

[beorhthelm]

A quick answer is to not think of it as machines that will replace individual people, but more powerful software that will enable one person to do the work of, say, 5 people.

people being more productive, oh the horror! this is literally retreading the Luddite cause, 200 years later. the scale of change will be people able to do far more and better with their time.

 

[MJsGhost]

Will we have more leisure time and a BUI to help those made redundant by the machines?

Now there's something I would get behind, whether or not the catalyst is AI.

Will any political party have the cojones to stick it in their manifesto...?

 

[Arthritic Toe]

Precisely.

I'm filing this with the 'millennium bug'.

To be fair though, the reason the millennium bug turned out to be not such a big deal was mainly due to the massive amount of remedial work that was done globally though the late 90's.

 

[The Fits]

More time yes, more money no. Unless governments introduce UBI many of us won't be able to afford to live. You really think multinationals and right wing government's are going to start letting us minions live a life of leisure?
Rent isn't going to go down. House prices won't. Energy prices won't. This is going to start happening in the next couple of years, everyone competing for far, far fewer jobs.

 

[The Fits]

It all boils down to who actually controls the technology. Do you believe these people will do good by the majority of us or do you think they'll just let us scramble in the dirt? Because right now all the evidence, throughout history, points to the latter.

 

[Beanstalk]

AI is just a tool. Like computers are, like all of humanity's steps forward have been.

What we do with it is the big question but it isn't inherently good or bad.

 

[beorhthelm]

To be fair though, the reason the millennium bug turned out to be not such a big deal was mainly due to the massive amount of remedial work that was done globally though the late 90's.

a mini-boom in IT, lots of upgrades, ushering in the interwebs and then the dot com boom. AI might cause a similar upscale of in creative industries.

 

[Springal]

It all boils down to who actually controls the technology. Do you believe these people will do good by the majority of us or do you think they'll just let us scramble in the dirt? Because right now all the evidence, throughout history, points to the latter.

What does that mean though. Are you saying a very small amount of people / companies are going to use AI to take over everything ?
Seems unlikely

 

[jakarta]

Predicted back in 1968...

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

In 1923 Garrett Morgan submitted a patent for The Electric Automatic Traffic Signal, now we’re at the point where AI poses a threat to mankind. I find it hard to believe that human achievement has evolved so dramatically in 100 years, encompassing spaceflight and nuclear fission amongst a myriad of other things, without some form of outside intervention, most of the progression coming in the last 80 years.(Dons foil hat)

 

[MJsGhost]

people being more productive, oh the horror! this is literally retreading the Luddite cause, 200 years later. the scale of change will be people able to do far more and better with their time.

Maybe, but the problems arise if/when there are too few jobs that need a human compared to the number of humans that need a job...

As usual, it would be the poorest in society that would suffer the most (but at least they'd have more leisure time to contemplate their lack of opportunity and money).

I believe there could be a path where AI drives a significant improvement in everyone's lot. Sadly, if it's left to private businesses / capitalism / individuals (without significant governance), the potential social good will be lost in corporate land-grabbing and the rush to monetise. That's why I'm in favour of things slowing down a bit to make sure there's time to make ethical decisions and form a global governance framework (quite how that would work is for people far brighter than me to work out).

I'm not against the development and use of AI, just conscious that it has to be done sensibly due to the potential for harm (to society rather than a T1000 on the loose).

 

[beorhthelm]

Maybe, but the problems arise if/when there are too few jobs that need a human compared to the number of humans that need a job...

As usual, it would be the poorest in society that would suffer the most (but at least they'd have more leisure time to contemplate their lack of opportunity and money).

I believe there could be a path where AI drives a significant improvement in everyone's lot. Sadly, if it's left to private businesses / capitalism / individuals (without significant governance), the potential social good will be lost in corporate land-grabbing and the rush to monetise. That's why I'm in favour of things slowing down a bit to make sure there's time to make ethical decisions and form a global governance framework (quite how that would work is for people far brighter than me to work out).

I'm not against the development and use of AI, just conscious that it has to be done sensibly due to the potential for harm (to society rather than a T1000 on the loose).

there's a couple of routes. first, do nothing, let people, business, government find their way as things occur. second, ask government and business to predict next years, decade and regulate, which they are generally very bad at and will do so in their favour (companies with current advantage will retain and use it). third, ban it, only real way to control it, have AI non-proliferation treaties and purge developer's hard drives of the software.

 

[PeakGull]

Just ran this on ChatGPT.

Never new Wardy was a legendary goalkeeper!!!

As an AI language model, I can provide you with a suggested all-time best starting eleven for Brighton & Hove Albion, based on the club's history up until my knowledge cutoff in September 2021. Keep in mind that this is a subjective choice and there may be different opinions on the matter. Here's a possible lineup:

Formation: 4-4-2

Goalkeeper:

1. Peter Ward - A legendary goalkeeper for Brighton & Hove Albion, known for his leadership and shot-stopping abilities.

Defenders:
2. Bruno Saltor - A key figure in Brighton's rise through the divisions, known for his versatility and defensive solidity.

1. Steve Foster - A club legend and captain during Brighton's successful era in the 1970s and 1980s.
2. Gordon Smith - A versatile defender who played a significant role in Brighton's promotion to the top flight.
3. Tommy Cook - An influential player in the club's early years, known for his defensive prowess.

Midfielders: 6. Bobby Zamora - A prolific striker who also contributed significantly from a midfield role during his time at Brighton.

1. Peter O'Sullivan - A creative midfielder who played a vital role in Brighton's promotion to the top flight in 1979.
2. Gary Stevens - A talented midfielder who was instrumental in Brighton's success in the 1970s and 1980s.
3. Kazenga LuaLua - A dynamic winger who provided pace and flair during his time at the club.

Forwards: 10. Glenn Murray - Brighton's all-time leading goal scorer, known for his clinical finishing and aerial ability.

1. Bobby Smith - A prolific goal scorer during the 1950s and 1960s, helping the club achieve promotion.

Please note that this lineup is based on historical performances and may not include more recent players who have made a significant impact on the club.

 

[PeakGull]

Just ran this on ChatGPT.

Never new Wardy was a legendary goalkeeper!!!

As an AI language model, I can provide you with a suggested all-time best starting eleven for Brighton & Hove Albion, based on the club's history up until my knowledge cutoff in September 2021. Keep in mind that this is a subjective choice and there may be different opinions on the matter. Here's a possible lineup:

Formation: 4-4-2

Goalkeeper:

1. Peter Ward - A legendary goalkeeper for Brighton & Hove Albion, known for his leadership and shot-stopping abilities.

Defenders:
2. Bruno Saltor - A key figure in Brighton's rise through the divisions, known for his versatility and defensive solidity.

1. Steve Foster - A club legend and captain during Brighton's successful era in the 1970s and 1980s.
2. Gordon Smith - A versatile defender who played a significant role in Brighton's promotion to the top flight.
3. Tommy Cook - An influential player in the club's early years, known for his defensive prowess.

Midfielders: 6. Bobby Zamora - A prolific striker who also contributed significantly from a midfield role during his time at Brighton.

1. Peter O'Sullivan - A creative midfielder who played a vital role in Brighton's promotion to the top flight in 1979.
2. Gary Stevens - A talented midfielder who was instrumental in Brighton's success in the 1970s and 1980s.
3. Kazenga LuaLua - A dynamic winger who provided pace and flair during his time at the club.

Forwards: 10. Glenn Murray - Brighton's all-time leading goal scorer, known for his clinical finishing and aerial ability.

1. Bobby Smith - A prolific goal scorer during the 1950s and 1960s, helping the club achieve promotion.

Please note that this lineup is based on historical performances and may not include more recent players who have made a significant impact on the club.

Woops wrong thread!!

 

[BrightonCottager]

More time yes, more money no. Unless governments introduce UBI many of us won't be able to afford to live. You really think multinationals and right wing government's are going to start letting us minions live a life of leisure?
Rent isn't going to go down. House prices won't. Energy prices won't. This is going to start happening in the next couple of years, everyone competing for far, far fewer jobs.

Universal Basic Income - another Green Party policy from long ago!

 

[beorhthelm]

Woops wrong thread!!

i'm not sure it is, seems to make a very good point.

 

[MJsGhost]

Just ran this on ChatGPT.

Never new Wardy was a legendary goalkeeper!!!

As an AI language model, I can provide you with a suggested all-time best starting eleven for Brighton & Hove Albion, based on the club's history up until my knowledge cutoff in September 2021. Keep in mind that this is a subjective choice and there may be different opinions on the matter. Here's a possible lineup:

Formation: 4-4-2

Goalkeeper:

1. Peter Ward - A legendary goalkeeper for Brighton & Hove Albion, known for his leadership and shot-stopping abilities.

Defenders:
2. Bruno Saltor - A key figure in Brighton's rise through the divisions, known for his versatility and defensive solidity.

1. Steve Foster - A club legend and captain during Brighton's successful era in the 1970s and 1980s.
2. Gordon Smith - A versatile defender who played a significant role in Brighton's promotion to the top flight.
3. Tommy Cook - An influential player in the club's early years, known for his defensive prowess.

Midfielders: 6. Bobby Zamora - A prolific striker who also contributed significantly from a midfield role during his time at Brighton.

1. Peter O'Sullivan - A creative midfielder who played a vital role in Brighton's promotion to the top flight in 1979.
2. Gary Stevens - A talented midfielder who was instrumental in Brighton's success in the 1970s and 1980s.
3. Kazenga LuaLua - A dynamic winger who provided pace and flair during his time at the club.

Forwards: 10. Glenn Murray - Brighton's all-time leading goal scorer, known for his clinical finishing and aerial ability.

1. Bobby Smith - A prolific goal scorer during the 1950s and 1960s, helping the club achieve promotion.

Please note that this lineup is based on historical performances and may not include more recent players who have made a significant impact on the club.

That's from the free version right?

v4 fares better:

Selecting an all-time best starting eleven for a football team like Brighton & Hove Albion is challenging and subjective as it depends on individual's preferences and knowledge. Furthermore, it's important to remember that Brighton have a history spanning more than a century, and it's challenging to compare players from different eras due to changes in the game, tactics, and player conditioning.

However, based on the impact and contribution they've made to the club up to my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, here is an all-time Brighton & Hove Albion starting eleven:

Formation: 4-4-2

1. Goalkeeper: Peter Grummitt - One of Brighton's greatest ever goalkeepers who helped the club rise from the Third Division to the First Division during the late 1970s.

2. Right-Back: Bruno Saltor - An influential figure both on and off the pitch, helping the Seagulls reach the Premier League.

3. Centre-Back: Steve Foster - An iconic figure who captained the side in the 1980s, including during the FA Cup final run.

4. Centre-Back: Gordon Greer - A key figure in the rise of Brighton in the 2010s, leading the side with composure and strength.

5. Left-Back: Wayne Bridge - Despite only a short spell at the club, his experience and quality showed as Brighton reached the Championship playoff semi-finals in 2013.

6. Right Midfield: Jimmy Case - Renowned for his skill and hard work on the pitch, Case was a key player in the Brighton team that reached the 1983 FA Cup Final.

7. Centre Midfield: Brian Horton - A dynamic and powerful midfielder who was part of the team that rose to the First Division in the late 1970s.

8. Centre Midfield: Liam Bridcutt - A talented midfielder who played a key role during Brighton's rise in the Championship.

9. Left Midfield: Peter Ward - A legend of Brighton football who was their star forward during the late 1970s and early 1980s.

10. Striker: Glenn Murray - Brighton's leading goal scorer in the Premier League era and a pivotal figure in their rise to the top flight.

11. Striker: Bobby Zamora - Scored crucial goals to help Brighton secure back-to-back promotions early in his career, then returned to the club to help them reach the Premier League.

Manager: Chris Hughton - He led Brighton & Hove Albion to their first promotion to the Premier League in 2017.

Remember, this is just one interpretation, and others might have different views based on their own perspectives and memories.

 

[Mustafa II]

The internet had exponential growth. There was a monumental evolution between the birth of the internet to what it has become today. Nobody could have really imagined it.

Now consider the speed of that exponential growth, times it by a thousand and give it steroids. That's what the next decade or so is going to look like, in terms of the evolution of AI.

AI being able to teach itself new things, with access to all human knowledge, all kinds of data, and being able to comprehend it all into new ideas... It will design better versions of itself and do so ad infinitum, exponentially. It already is doing exactly that.

It will be spectacular. There will be unimaginable advances in all fields, from medicine, to physics, to sport... in this lifetime... in the coming years.

The biggest concern isn't even job losses - the luddites were proven wrong about this long ago, and the likes of automation has simply allowed us to create new sectors.

The problem is when it becomes such a poweful force that it will be able to manipulate our behaviour, or design unimaginably dangerous things. It will be able to create a million unique social media profiles in an instant, indistinquishable from real people. How will this affect politics?

It will be able to design viruses or weapons that are more effective at killing than we have ever known. What if this got into the wrong hands?

There is of course the sci-fi risk that it will become somehow self aware or malevolent and will use its power to bring down humanity... farfetched, but not impossible.

Anything that humans can do, AI will be able to do better, given enough time... and it could all happen very quickly.

 

[herecomesaregular]

At least we know the new baddie for the next Bond movie.