The rumours suggest Arsenal lo-balled bids.
Were met with 'If you want him he cost £50m CoD'.
Then tried to structurally advantageous bids.
Were met with 'If you want him he cost £50m CoD'.
They wanted him - end of.
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[Football] Arsenal’s Ben White
- Thread starter Paulie Gualtieri
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The rumours suggest Arsenal lo-balled bids.
Were met with 'If you want him he cost £50m CoD'.
Then tried to structurally advantageous bids.
Were met with 'If you want him he cost £50m CoD'.
They wanted him - end of.
Now the bloody hell did he get from where he started to where he made the block?
He’s been learning from Lewis Dunk for a year.
Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
- 23,868
King is dead, long live the king. Don't disagree, but it does it just become a conveyor belt? If it can help you move up, fine, but if you just stand still producing and then losing talent to the big clubs, at what point does it become very annoying?
In the last ten years Southampton have sold Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, van Dijk, Sadio Mane, Luke Shaw, Lovren, Lallana, Clyne, Hojberg and Chambers, many of which were made at the club. Add a keeper and thats a hell of team, stick Bale and Ings in there and its a great squad. They all moved on to compete at the highest level and win things, but if they had all stayed they wouldn't have needed to move on to win things. A dilemma.
But yes, we are loaded with potential, and trust them to use it right
100%
Southampton must be THE most pillaged club in the Premier League era, and no matter how much you dress it up as a sustainable model it has to really sting as a Saints fan. They must be sick of the mere mention of Liverpool FC. Treading water in the PL year on year while your latest bright young thing gets revealed at a Liverpool, City, Spurs, Arsenal etc press conference isn’t much fun, but is the lot of the likes of us, unless we can somehow do a Leicester.
Barnet Seagull
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Its the long game though isnt it? A production line of saleable talent until such a point that the bar is raised to a level that one lost player is instantly replaced.
Its pretty obvious to me that Mwepu and Scherpen are seen as the potential successors to Biss and Sanchez.
I see the structure and planning and I think and hope we are doing a great job which delivers sustainability. Maybe, eventually we are in a position to retain talent but upsetting the established sides will be enough fun for a good few years yet.
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I've really got a bad feeling for Ben at Arsenal. He had absolutely no pressure on him at Brighton. Every move is being analysed at Arsenal and the midfield tracks back and helps a lot more defensively at Brighton.
I think he will struggle this season
I think he will struggle this season
He will be fine, Arsenal fans legendary for their support of players !!! ............
Gabbafella
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- Aug 22, 2012
- 4,906
I agree. I think arsenal fans are prone to lynching players for the slightest thing, and being a young defender with only one years premier League experience and a £50m price tag has potentially put a huge target on his back.
I hope he settles in and has a good season, but I also hope we finish above the gooners too, can't stand Arsenal.
People say what a great career step it is going to a club like Arsenal etc.
Of course historically that’s true. But as clubs today? I genuinely believe the club Ben is walking into now is not as good as our club is right now. From top down. Better ownership. A better head coach, probably better staff and working with a back line containing the likes of Sanchez, Dunk and Webster. Would he have improved more under GP compared Arteta? We’ll never know. And let’s not even go into the comedy that is AFTV. One bad result and you have to deal with a week of that.
Delighted our club’s transfer plan went a treat. The loan system, the contract extension when he came back to protect our asset, and then pretty much maximum extraction from Arsenal for the £50m + deal.
But I do think Ben could have moved to a better club than Arsenal. That’s my feeling anyway.
Kalimantan Gull
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Nah, kids too good and as someone else said, he has a had a real Premier league grounding at Brighton.
Thinking that he will struggle is more wishful thinking on the part of fans who really want to 'win' this transfer. Its probably what a lot of Leeds fans thought when they couldn't get him last summer, content as he struggled early on, before watching him totally dominate their team twice in the second half of the season.
Marshy
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Its a great move for him lets not kid ourselves. A move he had to take, he has stepped up levels easily all through his career and I expect him to do it again.
I look forward to watching Ben play for England regularly.
A great deal for both clubs and Ben in my opinion. Good luck to the lad.
I look forward to watching Ben play for England regularly.
A great deal for both clubs and Ben in my opinion. Good luck to the lad.
oldboyroy
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As much as I wish Ben all the luck in the world at arsenal it's sad he's gone. I know arsenal are massive in terms of history and wages they can pay but feel he'll get better playing for us rather than arsenal.
Pierre the Painter
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- May 20, 2020
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Full credit to Ben, got an assist on his debut, incisively cutting the ball through for the striker to score.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Arsenal clearly aren't the powerhouse club of old, I can't even remember the last time they were involved in a title race. But he'll have been given a life-changing contract there, plus no doubt a generous signing on fee. And given Arsenals form in the second half of last season, there's a chance they'll be pushing top 4 (but will probably fall just short).
Whatever way you look at it, its a fantastic career move for Ben. He'll likely be playing in Europe before long there, and he's now at a high enough profile club to get regularly picked for England. I'm really looking forward to following his career. My only regret is that I never got to see him play live for us. Thats a real gutter for me.
Whatever way you look at it, its a fantastic career move for Ben. He'll likely be playing in Europe before long there, and he's now at a high enough profile club to get regularly picked for England. I'm really looking forward to following his career. My only regret is that I never got to see him play live for us. Thats a real gutter for me.
Bladders
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Just watched the Chelsea highlights, god Arsenal are terrible at the back .
Think Ben's in for a long season
Think Ben's in for a long season
The Fits
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- Jun 29, 2020
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Same, and aren't they? Could really make or break him this move- i suspect he will step up, he looked very good yesterday, but he's in for a slog of a season without Webster and Dunk besides him.
albionalbino
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I think it's a great move for him.
He's already shown that he's patient and happily progressed his way through leagues and clubs on his way to the top.
He'll get game time which he wouldn't necessarily have got at Chelsea/City/Liverpool and probably sees it as a stepping stone to his next move, as I'm sure a highly competitive young man like Ben won't see Arsenal as his final destination.
I can see him bossing the Champion's League in the future but it won't be for Arsenal.
Not Andy Naylor
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It's a good move for us because we get £50m for a player who cost us very little, and we cash out before he gets an injury, loss of form, confidence crisis, big-time attitude. The offer was simply too good for us to turn down.
He gets to move to a club who will pay him much more and where he will be the best defender by far. There will be added pressure from one of the most entitled fanbases on the planet, but he's played for Leeds so he knows all about that. He may get to play in Europe in 2022-23, although it's far likelier to be in the Europa League than the Champions League. If he does well, then bigger clubs here and elsewhere will look at him.
Arsenal get a really good player but it remains to be seen how much support they give him. He's not a Dunk or Duffy who will win every ball in the air and will be covering for a lot of dodgy defenders on either side of him. We watch with interest.
He gets to move to a club who will pay him much more and where he will be the best defender by far. There will be added pressure from one of the most entitled fanbases on the planet, but he's played for Leeds so he knows all about that. He may get to play in Europe in 2022-23, although it's far likelier to be in the Europa League than the Champions League. If he does well, then bigger clubs here and elsewhere will look at him.
Arsenal get a really good player but it remains to be seen how much support they give him. He's not a Dunk or Duffy who will win every ball in the air and will be covering for a lot of dodgy defenders on either side of him. We watch with interest.