ARGUS COMMENT: Sort this out now

[Nathan]

ENOUGH is enough.

The time has come for a decision to be made on the future of Albion manager Gus Poyet.

It is now almost five weeks since Poyet was suspended by the club.

The Seagulls have completed a detailed investigation into alleged breaches of contract and Poyet is finally due to attend a disciplinary hearing tomorrow.

The suspension saga has descended into farce this week with claim and counter-claim about the hearing process and Albion at war with the League Managers Association.

It has all become very messy, nasty, undignified and damaging, both for the club and Poyet.

The fixtures are out today and the players report back on Monday. Surely we will know by then who the manager is?

Albion are already playing catch-up. Adam El-Abd and David have been offered new deals but who cam blame them, or potential new signings, for wanting to find out first who they will be playing for?

It will not be Poyet. The conflict between the club and manager runs far too deep for that to be an option.

As things stand, the sorry saga appears to be heading only one way – a battle through the courts which would prolong the agony and see Albion and Poyet airing each other’s dirty laundry in public.

Unless common sense prevails, the squabbling ends and they thrash out a solution which allows both sides to move on.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/albion/10493397.ARGUS_COMMENT__Sort_this_out_now/?ref=twt

 

[dougdeep]

Definitely not Mr Naylor.

 

[Giraffe]

Hard to argue with any of that.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Bit lame. Should have been asking serious questions before now rather than just demanding it be sorted out the day before the paper knows there is a meeting taking place where it probably will be moved on significantly.

Why not an editorial earlier instead of articles about Wayne Bridge looking forward to life at Reading and how Ryan Harley might benefit from a change of manager?

 

[sydney]

this whole situations is just ****ed up.

 

[ROSM]

Bit lame. Should have been asking serious questions before now rather than just demanding it be sorted out the day before the paper knows there is a meeting taking place where it probably will be moved on significantly.

Why not an editorial earlier instead of articles about Wayne Bridge looking forward to life at Reading and how Ryan Harley might benefit from a change of manager?

To be fair, its only really become a farce since last Thursday when the Friday meeting that never was, was being briefed on. Up until then. I hadn't seen any public pronouncements from poyet or the club that warranted concern (save for perhaps the taricco return to work comment)

 

[nwgull]

The 2nd last paragraph is misleading - it implies that BHA have to go to court to sack Poyet. They don't; he can be sacked tomorrow, and it's up to him to decide whether or not to take BHA to court for unfair dismissal.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

To be fair, its only really become a farce since last Thursday when the Friday meeting that never was, was being briefed on. Up until then. I hadn't seen any public pronouncements from poyet or the club that warranted concern (save for perhaps the taricco return to work comment)

Not a call to sort it out earlier, rather questions which the fans wanted answering. Things like: "Will the club be moving ahead with signings?", "How far back do the charges go?", "Have preparations for the new season been delayed?" and "When can fans expect a resolution?" Talk to Paul Barber. Get comments from Bloom reassuring fans. If the club won't comment or answer questions, say so.

Might not have got answers to everything but would have at least shown the paper is in line with the supporters and its readers rather than reporting second hand comments from the BBC or crap about Bridge and Harley.

Brian Owen's very impressive Vicente scoop aside, the Argus' coverage of this has been poor.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

The 2nd last paragraph is misleading - it implies that BHA have to go to court to sack Poyet. They don't; he can be sacked tomorrow, and it's up to him to decide whether or not to take BHA to court for unfair dismissal.

And the only positive if it does go to court is that the chargelist becomes public.

 

[Socialist Sid]

Not a call to sort it out earlier, rather questions which the fans wanted answering. Things like: "Will the club be moving ahead with signings?", "How far back do the charges go?", "Have preparations for the new season been delayed?" and "When can fans expect a resolution?" Talk to Paul Barber. Get comments from Bloom reassuring fans. If the club won't comment or answer questions, say so.

Might not have got answers to everything but would have at least shown the paper is in line with the supporters and its readers rather than reporting second hand comments from the BBC or crap about Bridge and Harley.

Brian Owen's very impressive Vicente scoop aside, the Argus' coverage of this has been poor.

I've wondered for quite a while whether The Argus is scared of saying anything that might upset the club.

 

[Acker79]

Maybe it's the cynic in me, but it's curious that they print this the day before a final meeting is set to take place, almost like they want to make out like them putting pressure on the club is why it got sorted out.

 

[Ulloa's Soul Patch]

Naylor OUT

 

[Dick Head]

Don't worry about it.

 

[gripper stebson]

The point seems to be that Poyet will fight tooth and nail that he was 'unfairly dismissed' should he be sacked and that it could run and run for months.

How then, is it so simple when other clubs sack their manager? Why is this scenario not played out every time - 500 page dossiers - meetings - LMA interference - tribunals etc?

Sorry to be such an ignoramus on this!

 

[Nathan]

I've wondered for quite a while whether The Argus is scared of saying anything that might upset the club.

I think you are right. They tend just to reproduce the news that is on the official site, or news that is common knowledge. I know they have to have a good relationship with the club but at the moment they seem to be just doing what the club ask, When was the last proper exclusive the Argus had - apart from the Vicente story.

 

[Acker79]

The point seems to be that Poyet will fight tooth and nail that he was 'unfairly dismissed' should he be sacked and that it could run and run for months.

How then, is it so simple when other clubs sack their manager? Why is this scenario not played out every time - 500 page dossiers - meetings - LMA interference - tribunals etc?

Sorry to be such an ignoramus on this!

Because other managers are paid off when they are sacked, or don't have clauses in contracts requiring payment? Because other managers are usually sacked when they can reasonably be defined as failing to do their job (e.g. relegations, missing out on position targets)

 

[nwgull]

The point seems to be that Poyet will fight tooth and nail that he was 'unfairly dismissed' should he be sacked and that it could run and run for months.

How then, is it so simple when other clubs sack their manager? Why is this scenario not played out every time - 500 page dossiers - meetings - LMA interference - tribunals etc?

Sorry to be such an ignoramus on this!

If a club sacks a manager it's usually down to poor performance of the team, and the club have to accept responsibility of giving the wrong man the job. In this case they'll usually have to pay off the contract or come to some sort of agreement.

In this case it's clearly not down to the results - we finished 4th - but club feels that Poyet has done something that contravene's his contract and have grounds for sacking him. In this case they would justifiably not want to pay off his 2.4m contract.

 

[Dick Head]

The Argus' coverage of this has been poor.

If only they'd KNOWN something!

 

[littlehampton seagull]

It poyet goes to newcastle might solve all of this quick.

 

[gripper stebson]

If a club sacks a manager it's usually down to poor performance of the team, and the club have to accept responsibility of giving the wrong man the job. In this case they'll usually have to pay off the contract or come to some sort of agreement.

In this case it's clearly not down to the results - we finished 4th - but club feels that Poyet has done something that contravene's his contract and have grounds for sacking him. In this case they would justifiably not want to pay off his 2.4m contract.

Cheers.