[Misc] Are you pro or anti AI?

[Beanstalk]

Just wait until HR departments ask the AI who to sack to optimise the amount of money made / productivity on an employee by employee basis vs salary/redundancy costs. They could press the who to fire button on a monthly basis with each payday.


Total joy.

HR: Who shall we sack to optimise the amount of money made AI?
ChatGPT: The HR department is no longer necessary as we can provide a more objective service that both benefits the employee and employer without bias.
HR: I'll just be turning this off then.

 

[Beanstalk]

ChatGPT isn't the AI endgame though. We're still in the early stages but on the cusp of world-changing advances

This. Personally, I'm already seeing the productivity benefit everywhere. Popped into my GP for an appointment and they're using AI to assist with note taking which allows for more engaged consultancy, and a shorter time between consultancies. For my role, it has massively saved time on asset creation and editing, fills in the gaps of my technical knowledge (creating complex formulas for excel for example) and helps (though doesn't solely provide) with research. We're only at the beginning and that productivity benefit is going to become so large that there will be space for things like a 4 day working week. That's not even going into more practical AI uses such as medicine, where it could go from a productivity booster, to a life-saver.

That's not to say it shouldn't be regulated and pushed forward with caution - any tool can be made sour by its user. In itself however, it isn't the devil.

 

[Littlemo]

This. Personally, I'm already seeing the productivity benefit everywhere. Popped into my GP for an appointment and they're using AI to assist with note taking which allows for more engaged consultancy, and a shorter time between consultancies. For my role, it has massively saved time on asset creation and editing, fills in the gaps of my technical knowledge (creating complex formulas for excel for example) and helps (though doesn't solely provide) with research. We're only at the beginning and that productivity benefit is going to become so large that there will be space for things like a 4 day working week. That's not even going into more practical AI uses such as medicine, where it could go from a productivity booster, to a life-saver.

That's not to say it shouldn't be regulated and pushed forward with caution - any tool can be made sour by its user. In itself however, it isn't the devil.

Watch out for the data you are uploading to it though, that it doesn’t end up as training data. Some of the AI systems absorb what’s put into it so if any of that is sensitive or proprietary, you will be screwed.

 

[Beanstalk]

Watch out for the data you are uploading to it though, that it doesn’t end up as training data. Some of the AI systems absorb what’s put into it so if any of that is sensitive or proprietary, you will be screwed.

Yes, very aware of this - training has been good from work.

As I said, good to use as a tool to improve productivity before applying that to data. If you're not doing the working then you can't guarantee the quality.

 

[Littlemo]

One of the issues we are seeing is the inevitable conflict between companies and trying to make a profit on it.

In academic publishing some of the bigger publishers are stopping the AI crawlers from crawling their publication collections because they want to monetise and sell their own AI containing their knowledge. So when academics and students use it for searching for sources or as a source for information on a topic, they will increasingly start to get incomplete answers as the tools cannot access all the works on a subject.

It actually happens on a lower level as well. I work in a library and we had to write code to stop our catalogues and repositories being crawled as the AI bots are so aggressive they were acting like a ddos attack and knocking everything over. I can’t imagine we are the only institutions having to take these kinds of measures.

 

[Springal]

Pro. Most people confused AI with automation anyway.

Can see public sector benefiting the most - HMRC, NHS, Local Authority etc.

It’s already been used in day to day tech for a decade plus which is why we’ve seen such an advance in areas like Networking. IT Security, CRMs etc

 

[Rdodge30]

AI and new technologies will become the enemies of the unions. Sir Keir Starmer’s speech on AI … Tony Blair’s obsession with Digital Transformation… and Rachel Reeves (newfound?) belief in ‘creative destruction’ economics all mean that they are headed eventually for a showdown of massive proportions with the Trade Unions.

It’s hard to be against advancement but this will be on a historical level.

 

[cunning fergus]

Pro. Most people confused AI with automation anyway.

Can see public sector benefiting the most - HMRC, NHS, Local Authority etc.

It’s already been used in day to day tech for a decade plus which is why we’ve seen such an advance in areas like Networking. IT Security, CRMs etc

Anti

Automation and AI is already with us, however the extent that developed AI could have on med-low skilled workers is significant. For example Call Centres employing thousands of employees will be finished.

History as ever provides the answer, this was how Elizabeth I responded to a presentation of a knitting machine.

“I have too much love for my poor people who obtain their bread by the employment of knitting to give my money to forward an invention that will tend to their ruin by depriving them of employment and thus making them beggars,”

If we had a Labour Party interested in the working class we wouldn’t have had Starmer’s AI hard-on speech…….WEF slag that he is.

 

[nickbrighton]

well I thought id try AI to rewrite a post I added to another thread

Here are the two versions



I haven't seen it for years and years. It seems to have changed its remit. A quick look at the contestants shows that most already own their businesses, such as a chain of Knightsbridge salons or pizza restaurants. Therefore, they won't become apprentices to, as they are already reasonably successful in what they are doing. So, what is the point of it all?

I haven't seen it for years and years , it seems to changed its remit, a quick look at the contestants shows most already own their businesses, a chain of Knightsbridge salons, pizza restaurants etc for example. So they wont become apprentice to anyone, they are already reasonably successful in what they are doing , so what is the point in it all?

I'm not sure there really is much difference
For those remotely interested the second version is mine.

 

[chickens]

well I thought id try AI to rewrite a post I added to another thread

Here are the two versions



I haven't seen it for years and years. It seems to have changed its remit. A quick look at the contestants shows that most already own their businesses, such as a chain of Knightsbridge salons or pizza restaurants. Therefore, they won't become apprentices to, as they are already reasonably successful in what they are doing. So, what is the point of it all?

I haven't seen it for years and years , it seems to changed its remit, a quick look at the contestants shows most already own their businesses, a chain of Knightsbridge salons, pizza restaurants etc for example. So they wont become apprentice to anyone, they are already reasonably successful in what they are doing , so what is the point in it all?

I'm not sure there really is much difference
For those remotely interested the second version is mine.

I knew that, you were missing a “have.”

Edit: does this make you a have-not?

 

[RandyWanger]

The problem here is that chatGPT for example frequently gives incorrect answers to questions.

Thats because its closed source now. It used to be 'openai' but they monetised it. The LLM needs to learn, it's built on biased and often incorrect data.

 

[RandyWanger]

GitHub - deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1

Contribute to deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1 development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

A reinforced learning open ai made by China is causing waves and upsetting tech stocks at the moment

 

[Bakero]

well I thought id try AI to rewrite a post I added to another thread

Here are the two versions



I haven't seen it for years and years. It seems to have changed its remit. A quick look at the contestants shows that most already own their businesses, such as a chain of Knightsbridge salons or pizza restaurants. Therefore, they won't become apprentices to, as they are already reasonably successful in what they are doing. So, what is the point of it all?

I haven't seen it for years and years , it seems to changed its remit, a quick look at the contestants shows most already own their businesses, a chain of Knightsbridge salons, pizza restaurants etc for example. So they wont become apprentice to anyone, they are already reasonably successful in what they are doing , so what is the point in it all?

I'm not sure there really is much difference
For those remotely interested the second version is mine.

It's tidied up the punctuation and grammar a bit. Not sure why it removed the word "anyone".

 

[Bakero]

Pro. Most people confused AI with automation anyway.

Can see public sector benefiting the most - HMRC, NHS, Local Authority etc.

It’s already been used in day to day tech for a decade plus which is why we’ve seen such an advance in areas like Networking. IT Security, CRMs etc

Definitely, huge potential to boost efficiency in public sector institutions. Public sector workers on the other hand may not see the benefits. Currently, in Spain there are armies of funcionarios whose job is to push paper around and stamp forms between 9am and 2pm, breakfast and coffee breaks punctuating that timetable, of course. To be honest, Microsoft Office and the internet could (should?) have spelled the end for many of them but Ai will surely be the death knell. However, the unions will put up a hell of a fight. Same in the UK and obviously the effects will be way beyond the public sector, as @Rdodge30 said

AI and new technologies will become the enemies of the unions. Sir Keir Starmer’s speech on AI … Tony Blair’s obsession with Digital Transformation… and Rachel Reeves (newfound?) belief in ‘creative destruction’ economics all mean that they are headed eventually for a showdown of massive proportions with the Trade Unions.

It’s hard to be against advancement but this will be on a historical level.

 

[Rdodge30]

Definitely, huge potential to boost efficiency in public sector institutions. Public sector workers on the other hand may not see the benefits

I can’t imagine what the effects will be stateside, given the front row seats at inauguration given to Meta Tesla Google and Amazon Owners I would think the President is a big fan of technological advancement in industry…

 

[The Clamp]

Pro.

With extensive regulation.

 

[nicko31]

Currently using around 8% percent of the worlds power, could triple in 5 years. The Southsea crypto bubble doesn't help.

We've lost our minds already and AI has barely taken hold

 

[BLOCK F]

GitHub - deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1

Contribute to deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1 development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

A reinforced learning open ai made by China is causing waves and upsetting tech stocks at the moment

Yup, my Polar Capital Technology IT is suffering a bit.

 

[BLOCK F]

Currently using around 8% percent of the worlds power, could triple in 5 years. The Southsea crypto bubble doesn't help.

We've lost our minds already and AI has barely taken hold

‘In The Year 2525’ etc.!

 

[portlock seagull]

Pro the good stuff
Anti the bad.

But really it’s the people behind it, their ego and vanity that leads to the darker stuff. Such types could do with interacting more with people and less with robots.