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portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,943
portslade
Far far from it.

I sit on a big training and education committee. The game is competing for funds, one trust taking over another, and those who should run things delegating management to managers and structures THEY (the medics) create. The medics are firmly in control. The trouble is that most medics have no idea about doing anything other than healing the sick. ???

It is a rum enbuggeration, to be sure. But it is definitely not old school government run (unless you think setting one trust against another is old school).

Yeah I was trying to put across that they are way behind with regards to streamlining the top posts to help the poor souls at the coal face.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
55,940
Faversham


zefarelly

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
22,772
Sussex, by the sea
Far far from it.

I sit on a big training and education committee. The game is competing for funds, one trust taking over another, and those who should run things delegating management to managers and structures THEY (the medics) create. The medics are firmly in control. The trouble is that most medics have no idea about doing anything other than healing the sick. ???

It is a rum enbuggeration, to be sure. But it is definitely not old school government run (unless you think setting one trust against another is old school).

A late, great friend was head of Path at Worthing, his last 15 years of 35 odd service was purely learning and running IT. You needed to know about blood to correctly set up the system, but you needed to,know about computers to make to make the system do the work. . . . basic inneficiencies in a complex area. Nothing new about getting that wrong!
 




lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
NSC Patron
Jun 11, 2011
14,060
Worthing
I trust it went well - my best wishes!

But, yes, bed pressure is the tool used to inform clinical decision making which is....actually wrong.
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My view is that the NHS would be a lot cheaper if systems and employment were not so slewed towards cost cutting. This is a rigged game where the number of staff required to monitor and manage cost cutting outweighs the savings made.

Douglas Adams wrote about the shoe event horizon. The plan here, if I were a free marked conservative, would be to facilitate an NHS event horizon where every attempt to make it more efficient made it more expensive. Then it would die. This may be close at hand but, as we all love the NHS, the death may be tricky to manage....


Cheers, HWT.

Since my last ablation, no shocks, been 2 years 9 months now, so hopefully I won’t have to use this ICD anything like the 60 plus times I’ve had to use the last two.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
55,940
Faversham
Cheers, HWT.

Since my last ablation, no shocks, been 2 years 9 months now, so hopefully I won’t have to use this ICD anything like the 60 plus times I’ve had to use the last two.

I know many atrial ablaters....it is the only area of clinical interest now, sadly (my research is on ventricular arrhythmias, the ones that can do for you in a matter of minutes). Sould very good wrt you :thumbsup:
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
God bless the millions of patriotic working-class Tory voters who had the good sense to realise that a manifesto packed full of freebies cannot be delivered by only taxing 'the few'. Fortunately, they helped save the country from yet another disastrous Socialist experiment and the shame of putting Corbyn's far-left, anti-semitic loons into government.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,999
You might need this.

wins the thread, with 14 million voters described in such a succinct meme, is there any point to further discussion? good luck with the progressive politics.
 


Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,201
Withdean area
wins the thread, with 13 million voters described in such a succinct meme, is there any point to further discussion? good luck with the progressive politics.

An erroneous meme.

The Labour taxation plans were going to hit millions of folk on every income level below £80,000.
 


Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
They’ve been hiding under rocks (on the subject of politics) since December 12th, now a mass and bitter venting of spleens. Really, really angry that hardly anyone jumped aboard Project Corbyn.

Whatever happened to the urban myths - millions of new voters will elect Corbyn, a rainy December day will keep the non-youth vote at home, tactical voting in Lewes, Hastings and so on will destroy the Tories?

It could’ve been so different. A non-Marxist Labour Party and Manifesto would’ve been far more palatable to ‘middle’ England and Wales.

The beginning of 5 years of hand wringing. An arrogance from some Corbyn voters, who deem themselves an intellectual cut above anyone who didn’t fancy the Marxist package as being best for our future.

Let’s never forget too that Corbyn was and is career blatantly anti-EU, before NSC revisionism portrays him as a champion of our membership of the EU.

Absolutely nailed it!

I wondered when the usual suspects would break their silence. The bitterness had to erupt at some point :lolol:
 




Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,201
Withdean area
Absolutely nailed it!

I wondered when the usual suspects would break their silence. The bitterness had to erupt at some point :lolol:

And no one ever blames Jon Lansman and his Marxist cronies that have de facto control.

On Dec 13th key Labour figures said there’d be honest and in-depth soul searching, a wide ranging review into the party’s failures in its direction and campaign.

Ah well, more of the same.
 


A1X

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NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
20,500
Deepest, darkest Sussex
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The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,125
West is BEST
I wondered how long it’d be before the usual suspects started trying to mock anyone that isn’t getting on board with their victory. Not long.
I have stayed away from politics over the festive period and don’t plan on returning to it after this post. Usual sore winners trying to shut down commentary.
Enjoy .
 




spence

British and Proud
Oct 15, 2014
9,953
Crawley
I wondered how long it’d be before the usual suspects started trying to mock anyone that isn’t getting on board with their victory. Not long.
I have stayed away from politics over the festive period and don’t plan on returning to it after this post. Usual sore winners trying to shut down commentary.
Enjoy .

Hope to see you outside parliament on the 31st when big ben strikes 11
 


Weststander

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
69,201
Withdean area
I wondered how long it’d be before the usual suspects started trying to mock anyone that isn’t getting on board with their victory. Not long.
I have stayed away from politics over the festive period and don’t plan on returning to it after this post. Usual sore winners trying to shut down commentary.
Enjoy .

As a Remainer, I witnessed 3 plus years of NSC’s devout Remainers (and often Corbyn fanatics), trying to shut down any Brexiteer who dared have an opinion. With 10,000’s of belittling and accusing comments, all targeted with the same smears.

NSC’s definitely been a happier place in the last 5 weeks, with football chat finally reclaiming its deserved prominence, over the stuck in a loop political insults.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
I wondered how long it’d be before the usual suspects started trying to mock anyone that isn’t getting on board with their victory. Not long.
I have stayed away from politics over the festive period and don’t plan on returning to it after this post. Usual sore winners trying to shut down commentary.
Enjoy .

Before you sod off can you let me know which Law that the Tories have passed prohibits any thing they do from being ruled unlawful. (according to you).
 


B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,717
Shoreham Beaaaach
As a Remainer, I witnessed 3 plus years of NSC’s devout Remainers (and often Corbyn fanatics), trying to shut down any Brexiteer who dared have an opinion. With 10,000’s of belittling and accusing comments, all targeted with the same smears.

NSC’s definitely been a happier place in the last 5 weeks, with football chat finally reclaiming its deserved prominence, over the stuck in a loop political insults.

Well said. Couldn't agree more. Not only on here but in life genreally.
 




B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,717
Shoreham Beaaaach
I wondered how long it’d be before the usual suspects started trying to mock anyone that isn’t getting on board with their victory. Not long.
I have stayed away from politics over the festive period and don’t plan on returning to it after this post. Usual sore winners trying to shut down commentary.
Enjoy .

:wozza: :facepalm: :

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Mirror. Look.
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,186
Hard work equals wealth is a myth in this country.

Exploiting labour is the real earner!
Yes, exploiting other people's hard work. :)

Sent from my Redmi Note 7 using Tapatalk
 


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