[Albion] Are we negative or just lack the quality ?

[tigertim68]

Well ?

Both

 

[Eeyore]

We don't have the quality on the pitch or the managerial nous off it.

That's why we're in League One.

Oh, wait...

 

[neilbard]

Players just ain’t good enough.

 

[LlcoolJ]

What's needed is a few more threads on exactly the same subject.

 

[Invicta]

To negative. Rather see us go down fighting.0.0 away at Newcastle and only make 1 sub. When we do use a sub it's always same old switches.

 

[Pavilionaire]

It's interesting reading this thread whilst watching Sam Allardyce' Everton getting destroyed by Spurs 4-0. It could have been 6 or 7 for Spurs, the Prem is a tough place to play.

 

[Brighton Mod]

Both but add in the lack of pace.

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I hear a lot about pace, but we have Izquierdo, March and knockheart and on the bench now Baldock, yet these players are not encouraged to use that pace. So its not about pace, Harrry Kane is not that fast, but he gets a lot of opportunities. Its about the game plan and whats in the players minds that has been conveyed by the manager.

 

[Lethargic]

I hear a lot about pace, but we have Izquierdo, March and knockheart and on the bench now Baldock, yet these players are not encouraged to use that pace. So its not about pace, Harrry Kane is not that fast, but he gets a lot of opportunities. Its about the game plan and whats in the players minds that has been conveyed by the manager.

You are sort of correct but I wasnt solely talking about physical pace we lack mental pace as much. Also we usually play 2 fast wingers but there is no one in the middle as the rest of the team are only plodding up to support. Watching MOTD and other teams will have 2 or 3 players sprinting into the box to support, that never happens with us.

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[Dave the OAP]

That's why we're in League One.

Oh, wait...

 

[Brighton Mod]

You are sort of correct but I wasnt solely talking about physical pace we lack mental pace as much. Also we usually play 2 fast wingers but there is no one in the middle as the rest of the team are only plodding up to support. Watching MOTD and other teams will have 2 or 3 players sprinting into the box to support, that never happens with us.

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Can only agree, other than Murray, who is there? he's not going to beat three/four defenders and Propper, Gross and Stephens are never going to get there, I think their goal tally demonstrates that.

 

[sllugaes]

Both!

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[Bwian]

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Exactly!

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[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Our defence is performing genuine heroics this season. But they can't be expected to soak up pressure against Premier League opposition for ninety minutes week in week out. Without any form of credible counter-attacking threat to give the defence a bit of a breather now and again, we're essentially just setting out our stall for a series of 2-0 defeats.

 

[DavePage]

apart from our triangles at the back we seem to have lost the ability to complete straight forward passes.
Don’t know if there is a fear factor of giving the ball away? which creates the factor of giving it away, anyway.
Doing the basics that came naturally last year and keeping possession can only help the other aspects of our game.
Yes I know the opposition are way better than last year, but many of the give aways are unforced.

 

[neilbard]

The tools Hughton has to work with dictates how we play.

 

[Icy Gull]

Our defence is performing genuine heroics this season. But they can't be expected to soak up pressure against Premier League opposition for ninety minutes week in week out. Without any form of credible counter-attacking threat to give the defence a bit of a breather now and again, we're essentially just setting out our stall for a series of 2-0 defeats.

Irritatingly we are only a pacy quality striker away from having that threat. We have the wingers who can get to the byline at pace and cross but whenever they do they look mugs as there isn’t a single Albion player waiting in the box. Hence the setting up not to concede mentality. Not signing a striker has been our undoing and looks likely to be the main reason we get relegated. No goals from our central defenders at set pieces in the opposition area just compounds the problem. Concede and we are likely to lose, how much pressure does that it on the defence EVERY game? They are not superhuman. We have no outlet, however CH juggles the players and tactics, simplistic but true imo.

 

[Trigger]

Well we are definitely the most negative team in the prem (more so than Boro last season) but what other option do we have without enough quality up top? Get a ****ing striker in before it's too late!!!!!

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Both.


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[mreprice]

I stole this point from another thread but did you realise that all outfield players we finished the game with played for us last season as well. They have done amazingly well given the supposed step up in class in the Premier League.
And also highlights what I said at the start of the season. It was a worry we spent £40m in the office season and yet have the same players on the park as last season.

 

[Napier's Knee]

For the most part I think the players are good enough to keep us up. I don't think we have the coaching or modern tactical awareness to keep us up. Eddie Howe out-thought us twice for instance. If we had Wagner and his coaching team we'd be safe mid table mediocrity