[Misc] Are They Just Incredibly Thick?

[Thunder Bolt]

Now I know you are having laugh. Boris can’t string a coherent sentence together, he talks gibberish. To even attempt to put him in the same sphere as Churchill is heresy. Churchill would rip boris a second ******** without a moments thought.



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He's definitely having a laugh. Mouldy loves a good wind up, not that he ever does a good wind up.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

There’s a very good reason why Corbyn wants to lower the voting age. Anyone 21 or younger will not remember the horrendous times in the late 1970’s when our economy was on its knees , high inflation and strikes every month because the Labour Party at that time has no idea how to run the country. Fortunately since then labour governments have improved except that is for the current Labour Party which if heaven forbid they ever got into power with Corbyn and his henchmen, would drag as back into another winter of discontent and probably bankrupt the country.

I’m not a fan of Boris but there is no sensible alternative.

Wilson and Callaghan were truly awful, surprising that they didn't totally sink the Labour Party altogether.

Tony Benn in there screwing up everything also, he managed to pass that on to Hilary, who could almost single-handedly be blamed for the mess we are in now, and I suspect that he has also screwed up the future also unless we get a clear majority government.

Fecking Benns

 

[Weststander]

Jeez. I can see why you are viewed as patronizing. You may have life-experience but it is based on your life....which is not always going to be relevant to today’s world. Youngsters have lots of bright, smart and fresh thinking, mainly due to viewing the world in a different way to us. To just dismiss them like you have is arrogant in the extreme.

I love the optimism of youth. Enjoyed through having kids, or by socialising/working with young adults. Some NSC teachers have said that in the past too.

Nothing for Brexiteers to be afraid of; young people in my experience have a broad range of views, they shouldn’t be pigeon-holed.

 

[Gwylan]

long did the Franco-Prussian war last? When did it start?.

Ooh, I know. It started in 1871 and lasted just a few months. It ended with France giving up Alsace-Lorraine.

The Paris Commune was in the middle of it all

What do I win?

 

[Caveman]

Where’s Africa?

Next to your David Beckham aftershave?

 

[lawros left foot]

What a load of codswallop.

If you're going to use arguments like that then lets apply intelligence test to allow people to vote. There are plenty of people older than 21 who are too thick to analyse what to vote for.

My favourite’old person voting’ example. I worked with a 62 year old woman who voted Tory in the 1992 election, because John Major looked like her brother in law.

 

[lawros left foot]

I am not sure how old you lot are, but one thing that is certain under 21s are at about 25% into their lives, some have not even had a job or left home yet, how the feck have they got ALL the understanding that they NEED to make an accurate decision on which party to VOTE for

All they have learnt to that point is the stuff that has been rammed into their heads through Universities, where they have generally been groomed by Corbyn's bribes, he has been playing the long game and FIDDLING with our youth, who are incredibly vulnerable.
If this were done in a sexual way you would all string him up.

If you can't see that may I suggest you may be on the gullibility scale and open to be shafted by Comrade Corbyn and McDonnell?

Of course, it's down to you what you vote, but just think about it things can get a million times worse long term, don't be taken in by the short term bullsh*t.

Now the important bit, fantasise over Swinsons breast as you wish, but one thing for sure she won't be thinking of your penis.

I think you’d better raise your age barrier a bit ,mouldy.
Labour was the party of choice in the last election for the majority of under 44 year olds. So, no vote until you’re 45 and have learnt that Corbyn hides behind the mask of deceit and will vote appropriately.

 

[lawros left foot]

Wilson and Callaghan were truly awful, surprising that they didn't totally sink the Labour Party altogether.

Tony Benn in there screwing up everything also, he managed to pass that on to Hilary, who could almost single-handedly be blamed for the mess we are in now, and I suspect that he has also screwed up the future also unless we get a clear majority government.

Fecking Benns

Yeah, we should all have voted for Edward Heath , the visionary leader who took us in to Europe.

 

[lawros left foot]

You really are making yourself look a bit dim!!

A bit??

 

[lawros left foot]

When did the First World War end?

 

[Lower West Stander]

Plumbing new depths tonight.

This is actually making me annoyed


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[Weststander]

A pre WW2 edition = printed now. Couldn’t make it up.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

I am not sure how old you lot are, but one thing that is certain under 21s are at about 25% into their lives, some have not even had a job or left home yet, how the feck have they got ALL the understanding that they NEED to make an accurate decision on which party to VOTE for

All they have learnt to that point is the stuff that has been rammed into their heads through Universities, where they have generally been groomed by Corbyn's bribes, he has been playing the long game and FIDDLING with our youth, who are incredibly vulnerable.
If this were done in a sexual way you would all string him up.

If you can't see that may I suggest you may be on the gullibility scale and open to be shafted by Comrade Corbyn and McDonnell?

Of course, it's down to you what you vote, but just think about it things can get a million times worse long term, don't be taken in by the short term bullsh*t.

Now the important bit, fantasise over Swinsons breast as you wish, but one thing for sure she won't be thinking of your penis.

I'm 66. I have a wife who retired last summer after a lifetime in further education. Through that and through my own life/work I have come across plenty of young people - enough of them to know that a goodly proportion of them are WELL capable of thinking for themselves, of having good and reasoned opinions about serious issues and of having good and reasoned debate about it all.

Your comments about the education system and about young people having things rammed in to their heads are frankly ridiculous. The emphasis in education today at ALL LEVELS, the age of 5 upwards, would be to encourage kids to think for themselves and to find out for themselves. The education system has managed to stay on a reasonably even keel despite the efforts of feckwits like Michael Gove trying to impose his own agenda and enforcing the learning of dates in history, HIS own narrow view of what should be taught in English Literature and so on. Kids today are far more likely to question what people like Corbyn, and Johnson, and Rees-Mogg and Swinson and all of them say, and to work it out for themselves...…. unlike plenty of people with the life experience that you are speaking so highly of who are working with the prejudices built up over that lifetime and which they have never been trained to challenge - some of them believe what they read in the Daily Mail.

If that makes me gullible, then so be it. I like being gullible and would prefer that to wallowing in your level of ignorance and prejudice.

And I am not influenced by Ms Swinson's breasts in the least.

 

[Washie]

Ooh, I know. It started in 1871 and lasted just a few months. It ended with France giving up Alsace-Lorraine.

The Paris Commune was in the middle of it all

What do I win?

July1870 - May 1871

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

There’s a very good reason why Corbyn wants to lower the voting age. Anyone 21 or younger will not remember the horrendous times in the late 1970’s when our economy was on its knees , high inflation and strikes every month because the Labour Party at that time has no idea how to run the country. Fortunately since then labour governments have improved except that is for the current Labour Party which if heaven forbid they ever got into power with Corbyn and his henchmen, would drag as back into another winter of discontent and probably bankrupt the country.

I’m not a fan of Boris but there is no sensible alternative.

Mickey Mouse would be a sensible alternative to Boris. He is a serial liar and very good at making promises he knows he can never keep.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

Not sure how all of the losing team weren't sacked tonight what a bunch of lemons.

 

[Gwylan]

July1870 - May 1871

Just looked it up. It actually ended in January 1871, so lasted six months. I was a year out for its start date though (I thought the Commune, which was 1871, was in the middle of the war, not at the end)

Not bad for someone who learned about when we studied the unification of Germany for history O Level, 46 years ago.

 

[portlock seagull]

I’ve just watched a BBC trailer for tonight’s episode of The Apprentice. In it the teams were asked to find an item ( a book?) pre-dating the Second World War. Lottie the Hottie was bang on in her team with both the start and end of dates. The other team -“How long did it last? It ended in 1945 or did it start then? It lasted four years didn’t it?” Blank faces all round. “Let’s move on to the next item.”

Is it me, of all the obvious dates in our recent history I would have thought that so called intelligent, professional people would know the dates of probably the largest conflict ever fought, and one that affected our country so deeply?

FFS!!

If you spent all your life playing crushed candie or angry pigeons then you’d have no time for history either! Btw, the answer to your question is yes, they are

 

[Nottseagull]

Just going back to the original post, I wonder if time from the event has anything to do with it?

What I mean is, I was growing up in the 90's and I knew the dates WW2 kicked off and had some concept of the reasons behind it and from that a scant knowledge of WW1 but at the time WW2 was a shade over 50 years old so very much in that time frame. Now though, 1939 is 80 years ago. To a kid that's quite literally a lifetime ago. Beyond knowing that WW2 was a hugely damaging chapter in history is there really a need for them to know the minutiae of it? Unless they're interested in history specifically?

Nah, no need to teach them how racism and intolerance can eventually lead to 50 million dead and the Holocaust. Completely irrelevant nowadays, what with major democracies producing presidents like Trump and Putin.

 

[portlock seagull]

Just going back to the original post, I wonder if time from the event has anything to do with it?

What I mean is, I was growing up in the 90's and I knew the dates WW2 kicked off and had some concept of the reasons behind it and from that a scant knowledge of WW1 but at the time WW2 was a shade over 50 years old so very much in that time frame. Now though, 1939 is 80 years ago. To a kid that's quite literally a lifetime ago. Beyond knowing that WW2 was a hugely damaging chapter in history is there really a need for them to know the minutiae of it? Unless they're interested in history specifically?

To put it another way, those of you in school in the 50's, how much did you know about what was going on in the world in 1870? How long did the Franco-Prussian war last? When did it start?

I'm not equating WW2 with that war in terms of scale or loss or anything and I'm not attempting to say kids shouldn't be taught about it because of course they should so that we never end up repeating it. All I'm trying to say, in a roundabout rambling way, that stuff that happened 80 years ago probably isn't of great interest to your average kid.

I love history so I did know that in fact when I was a kid! But major difference is that we grew up in the shadow of ww2 with the generation that lived it, fed by a diet of action toys, models, heroes, films, comics etc based on that era. It was hard to escape it really, the natural thing for boys of the 50s, 60s, 70s and to a degree 80s to take an interest in. Sadly that generation, the greatest generation, has all but gone now and technology has also expedited the gap between then and now so it really does look and feel like a completely different world. One that today’s kids (and they are kids on the Apprentice) have no connection with. Their loss though, I’m glad to have grown up listening to stories about Bill at El Alamein rather than Kim Kardashian’s latest arse botox!