[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?

[WATFORD zero]

Personally, I don’t agree. Couldn’t stand the wet wipe.

But not the worst of the bunch.

I wonder if there's an award for least swivel-eyed looney leader of a once proud political party in the last 6 years

If there is, I think it would be unanimous



Still gets my vote

 

[kojak]

No, the U.K. is done for unless we rejoin the EU and that won’t happen because everyone is too scared to upset the gammons.

So nope, we have been a decaying country since 2016 and we will continue to sink lower until someone nuts up and puts us back in the EU. With no referendum.

All the immigrants risking their lives crossing the Channel in rubber dingies in all weathers don't seem to agree with you

 

[The Clamp]

All the immigrants risking their lives crossing the Channel in rubber dingies in all weathers don't seem to agree with you

Since our breakdown in relations with the continent, they are coming over in greater numbers than ever.

Not sure why that’s done that ^^ apologies

 

[Weststander]

The bill to renationalise railways has been passed.

Would love that to come to fruition, in terms of a single entity owning the network and operations.

 

[BadFish]

In some senses they have already turned you around (in that you finally managed to vote out the shower of shite that was so catastrophic for the country).

I think you have a long way to go to get the government you deserve. As an electorate you settled for shit for way too long.

What is weird to me is that through austerity the shite put the economic burden on working people who were already struggling, you all kept voting them in with very little complaint.

Now the slightlh less shite are trying to shift that burden to richer people (using farms to avoid tax like Clarkson), everyone is up in arms.

God knows what you would do if they went after the newspaper barons or royal family.

The answer really, is in how one defines 'turning the country round'.

 

[BadFish]

All the immigrants risking their lives crossing the Channel in rubber dingies in all weathers don't seem to agree with you

Its all relative though isn't it.

The UK is still preferable to the shit they are running from.

 

[Arkwright]

It will take more than one term to make a difference.

 

[Chicken Run]

Its all relative though isn't it.

The UK is still preferable to the shit they are running from.

I totally agree, France is an absolute shit hole and full of, well French

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Would love that to come to fruition, in terms of a single entity owning the network and operations.

Apparently it will be gradual as each franchise comes to an end. Great British Railways.

 

[Weststander]

Apparently it will be gradual as each franchise comes to an end. Great British Railways.

For our region, imagine a world with no Southern, SE, Gatwick Express and Thameslink, very simple fares, none of the “Wrong company, you can’t use that here”.

 

[Machiavelli]

Giraffe has shoved his head up his arse, and with that length of neck I doubt he can hear you. Or indeed anything.

Harry. Of all your posts that is one of your very finest

 

[nicko31]

I would be interested to see how Rishi did without a party broken and full of bat shit mentalists behind him, he seemed quite sensible on the whole.

Never forget his stunt of shredding EU laws to curry favour with the Tory members.

Embarrassing

 

[nicko31]

In some senses they have already turned you around (in that you finally managed to vote out the shower of shite that was so catastrophic for the country).

I think you have a long way to go to get the government you deserve. As an electorate you settled for shit for way too long.

What is weird to me is that through austerity the shite put the economic burden on working people who were already struggling, you all kept voting them in with very little complaint.

Now the slightlh less shite are trying to shift that burden to richer people (using farms to avoid tax like Clarkson), everyone is up in arms.

God knows what you would do if they went after the newspaper barons or royal family.

The answer really, is in how one defines 'turning the country round'.

We still have a big problem with deference, it’s a disease that holds the country back.

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

I find it strange when people assert that the political parties are 'all the same'. From a Guardian article:

"Foreign secretary David Lammy says he is ending London’s role as a money laundering capital."

Imagine the Tories doing that?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

All the immigrants risking their lives crossing the Channel in rubber dingies in all weathers don't seem to agree with you

It is odd, given the constant anti-immigrant rhetoric from the Tories when they were in power, and the "regain of control of our borders" after we left the EU, how the number of channel crossings absolutely skyrocketed.

Anyone would be tempted to think that the driver for the crossings has nothing to do with our EU membership or our sovereign right to control our borders (or indeed how much the party of government at the time keeps banging on about the issue).

 

[WATFORD zero]

It is odd, given the constant anti-immigrant rhetoric from the Tories when they were in power, and the "regain of control of our borders" after we left the EU, how the number of channel crossings absolutely skyrocketed.

Anyone would be tempted to think that the driver for the crossings has nothing to do with our EU membership or our sovereign right to control our borders (or indeed how much the party of government at the time keeps banging on about the issue).

Shirley you're not suggesting that letting immigration run rampant and stopping processing and stockpiling Asylum seekers whilst claiming to 'regain control' was simply used as a way to garner the votes of the terminally naive

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Shirley you're not suggesting that letting immigration run rampant and stopping processing and stockpiling Asylum seekers was simply used as a way to garner the votes of the terminally naive

I am not sure the Tories were that calculating. Yes, they certainly weaponized the issue, but they put so little time and effort into it there is no evidence they gave it much thought at all. It is as if they couldn't care less about it. Year after year. Most peculiar. And then ta da! Rwanda! (What?)

I do feel nonplussed about people who keep on banging on about 'the boats', though. Yes, there are boats. Sometimes they sink. Sometimes people are rescued. Then something happens after that. And none of this materially affects any of us.

I have never seen a boat come to shore. I have never seen an illegal immigrant.

I could make up some sort of narrative about how each boat adds 0.001 p to my tax bill, or adds 10 seconds to the week I have to wait for a doctor appointment, but I'm not a churlish whiney twat. I have more pressing issues to deal with.

 

[Is it PotG?]

BBC Verify used Labour activist to back Government’s claims on farm inheritance tax.

Dan Neidle, who previously pursued Nadhim Zahawi over tax affairs, was quoted as an ‘independent’ expert.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/20/bbc-verify-used-labour-activist-to-back-farm-iht-claims/

 

[Rdodge30]

but I'm not a churlish whiney twat. I have more pressing issues to deal with.

I think you’ve been hacked !

 

[Machiavelli]

BBC Verify used Labour activist to back Government’s claims on farm inheritance tax.

Dan Neidle, who previously pursued Nadhim Zahawi over tax affairs, was quoted as an ‘independent’ expert.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/20/bbc-verify-used-labour-activist-to-back-farm-iht-claims/

He is an independent expert. And Zahawi warranted pursuing over his tax affairs, which should have been done by HMRC but, then again, a certain party depleted staffing in HMRC so the tax evaders have had a field day.
And you support this (although you'll come out and deny it),