[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?

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Is Labour going to turn the country around

  • Yes

    Votes: 81 29.2%
  • No

    Votes: 159 57.4%
  • Fence

    Votes: 37 13.4%

  • Total voters
    277






Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,119
Faversham




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,119
Faversham
Is that a good thing? It is hard to believe 80% are genuine asylum seekers. Our figure is higher than other European countries.
The bogus asylum seekers are not included in the statistics.
 


ozzygull

Well-known member
Oct 6, 2003
4,165
Reading
My answer to this question is I hope so and I am optimistic.

This is my experience over the years of living in Shinfield and part of the Wokingham constituency.

Up until the last election John Redwood was my MP. I never saw him in the whole time he was my MP, I did email him a couple of times and got a response, that at best what I would say was a trite answer at worst just plain rude.

Last week I had a knock on my door and it was Yuan Yang our new Labour MP and she was asking me about what issues I felt strongly about in our constituency.
Our area over the last 17 years has been inundated with housing projects, so much so that the village is unrecognisable to the place when I moved here, and there is even more planned. Now you may say I am being a nimby to complain about this, but my argument to her was, that I understood there was a housing crises, but that the houses being built were the wrong type and that there should be more social and affordable housing, otherwise the housing crises will continue forever. My second was that the houses that had already been built by the greedy arseholes that built them, sold off the leases and maintenance contracts and the poor sods that have bought these houses were left with massive costs that they didn't sign up for and were stuck paying for, all in the name of greed, and to top it off, they were not doing the work they were being charged for.

So to compare and contrast my experience with the last Tory MP and my current Labour MP. (this is why I am hopeful)

 




Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,773
Fiveways
Absolutely no chance. It needs a radical re-think on so many issues. All we are getting is the same old tired stuff but done to the extreme. Taxing people more money has never been proven to be the way to grow an economy. Throwing more money at the NHS has never worked either. It all needs a big change. Labour doesn't have the ability to do that sadly and I doubt the Tories ever will either.

1, taxes were far higher -- and far, far higher on the wealthy -- in 1945-79, and economic growth was much higher too. To add, going into this period, government debt was at 250% of GDP, it was veering towards 50% by the end of it.
2, throwing money at the NHS was exactly what New Labour did and this fixed it, while public satisfaction with the NHS improved remarkably alongside improved outcomes
 
















nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly
My answer to this question is I hope so and I am optimistic.

This is my experience over the years of living in Shinfield and part of the Wokingham constituency.

Up until the last election John Redwood was my MP. I never saw him in the whole time he was my MP, I did email him a couple of times and got a response, that at best what I would say was a trite answer at worst just plain rude.

Last week I had a knock on my door and it was Yuan Yang our new Labour MP and she was asking me about what issues I felt strongly about in our constituency.
Our area over the last 17 years has been inundated with housing projects, so much so that the village is unrecognisable to the place when I moved here, and there is even more planned. Now you may say I am being a nimby to complain about this, but my argument to her was, that I understood there was a housing crises, but that the houses being built were the wrong type and that there should be more social and affordable housing, otherwise the housing crises will continue forever. My second was that the houses that had already been built by the greedy arseholes that built them, sold off the leases and maintenance contracts and the poor sods that have bought these houses were left with massive costs that they didn't sign up for and were stuck paying for, all in the name of greed, and to top it off, they were not doing the work they were being charged for.

So to compare and contrast my experience with the last Tory MP and my current Labour MP. (this is why I am hopeful)


Beggars belief Redwood got knighted, the archetypal lazy Tory in a safe seat. When things got tough he bottled it
 


Dr Bandler

Well-known member
Dec 17, 2005
550
Peterborough
The bogus asylum seekers are not included in the statistics.
That does not make sense. If you are looking at a statistic that 80% of asylum applications are approved, presumably the 20% that are rejected are deemed to be bogus. That is inherently in the data, unless you are implying bogus ones are somehow excluded before their applications are assessed.
 


bluenitsuj

Listen to me!!!
Feb 26, 2011
4,737
Willingdon
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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,119
Faversham
That does not make sense. If you are looking at a statistic that 80% of asylum applications are approved, presumably the 20% that are rejected are deemed to be bogus. That is inherently in the data, unless you are implying bogus ones are somehow excluded before their applications are assessed.
It wasn't meant as a serious reply.

The facts have been reported elsewhere. Dispute them if you will.

The 'getting all worked up about asylum seekers' boat has sailed for the time being. Meanwhile the grown ups will try to work how how best to deal with things.

You can get back on the Rwanda campaign trail in 4 years :thumbsup:
 








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