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[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?

Is Labour going to turn the country around

  • Yes

    Votes: 128 25.8%
  • No

    Votes: 304 61.2%
  • Fence

    Votes: 65 13.1%

  • Total voters
    497


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,151
A typical MP gets 90k a year. This does not strike me as much given the role and responsibilities and the hassle which goes with it.
Plus expenses, accommodation and staff.
Many have "other" jobs where they get paid for their knowledge (and not for giving the employers access to Parliament 😂).
Peter Kyle my MP earnt over £100,000 last year from external work, had numerous concert and sports days out, and a little £10,000 holiday in California paid by Lord Sainsbury.
Small fry to Farage's work and freebies.
 




Guinness Boy

Tofu eating wokerati
Helpful Moderator
NSC Patron
Jul 23, 2003
38,451
Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
As long as people in power are earning lots of money, they don't care about anyone else
We'd definitely get better quality debate and legislation if they were all paid minimum wage or made to do it for free.

That or a mixture of the landed gentry and people who left a troubled school at 15.
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
7,233
Just far enough away from LDC
Plus expenses, accommodation and staff.
Many have "other" jobs where they get paid for their knowledge (and not for giving the employers access to Parliament 😂).
Peter Kyle my MP earnt over £100,000 last year from external work, had numerous concert and sports days out, and a little £10,000 holiday in California paid by Lord Sainsbury.
Small fry to Farage's work and freebies.
From that link where is the 100k for external work? I can see where companies have funded secondees to work with him (c72k) amongst other donations declared.

The 10k 'holiday' appears to have been a work trip
 


Hiheidi

Well-known member
Dec 27, 2022
2,349
Making inappropriate comments on WhatsApp (or social media in general) is issue we as a society need to be constantly reminding our kids not to do. It will bite you in the arse.

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Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
15,589
Cumbria
There must be a demand for them though.
In the 'If you build it, they will come' sense. Yes.

But they are not 'needed'. That is - the buyers of the four bedroom executive homes are not currently living in bedsits or sharing houses and so on. And quite a few go as second homes.

If you have ice creams for sale, they will go - so there is a demand. But we don't 'need' to eat ice creams really.
 




Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
15,589
Cumbria
That is the bank of england rate, not the same as mortgage rates which have gone up the last 3 months
Yes - but your post I was responding to didn't mention mortgage rates.

However.....

 








seagullwedgee

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2005
3,151
My beef is the sheer number of MPs. The USA has 100 Senators for 330 million people, so 3.3 million people per Senator, on average. We have 650 MPs for 65 million people, so 100,000 people per MP. Why do need 33 times as many highly paid politicians as the USA does? If we reduced the number from 650 to 250, and still paid them £90kpa, that would save a colossal amount of money, and reduce all sorts of other costs like second homes, travel, security costs etc.
 


Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
20,328
Valley of Hangleton
My beef is the sheer number of MPs. The USA has 100 Senators for 330 million people, so 3.3 million people per Senator, on average. We have 650 MPs for 65 million people, so 100,000 people per MP. Why do need 33 times as many highly paid politicians as the USA does? If we reduced the number from 650 to 250, and still paid them £90kpa, that would save a colossal amount of money, and reduce all sorts of other costs like second homes, travel, security costs etc.
One flaw in your plan for 250 MP’s is at the current rate there wouldn’t be many left if they continue to behave like tools
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
My beef is the sheer number of MPs. The USA has 100 Senators for 330 million people, so 3.3 million people per Senator, on average. We have 650 MPs for 65 million people, so 100,000 people per MP. Why do need 33 times as many highly paid politicians as the USA does? If we reduced the number from 650 to 250, and still paid them £90kpa, that would save a colossal amount of money, and reduce all sorts of other costs like second homes, travel, security costs etc.
Wait til you find out there are over 800 in the House of Lords.
 








Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
25,188
GOSBTS
Nope I'm calling him a rat because it was nicer than many of the other things I could call him, the f***ing tosser.
you should hear what he said about your mum
 






Commander

Arrogant Prat
NSC Patron
Apr 28, 2004
13,909
London
My beef is the sheer number of MPs. The USA has 100 Senators for 330 million people, so 3.3 million people per Senator, on average. We have 650 MPs for 65 million people, so 100,000 people per MP. Why do need 33 times as many highly paid politicians as the USA does? If we reduced the number from 650 to 250, and still paid them £90kpa, that would save a colossal amount of money, and reduce all sorts of other costs like second homes, travel, security costs etc.
Or better still, reduce the number as you say, but pay serious money for serious quality that are held to incredibly high standards. Actually get our best and brightest going in to politics instead of limited and middle of the road talent.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,278
Surrey
Or better still, reduce the number as you say, but pay serious money for serious quality that are held to incredibly high standards. Actually get our best and brightest going in to politics instead of limited and middle of the road talent.
I don't think it would magically lift the quality of our MPs, tbh, but it would mean that more people would consider a career in politics that currently don't because the money isn't all that high.

I mean do you honestly think we'd see the back of Lee Anderson or that WhatsApp idiot or other hard of thinking MPs, simply by doubling his pay?
 


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