[Politics] Are Germany next to turn back to the dark side?

[Weststander]

Well, there's a litany of false premises in this post.

AKA baseless bullsh*te.

 

[AmexRuislip]

With Europe hanging on a knife edge, Germany have hugely ramped up defence spending and continue to "do business" with Russia, despite the alleged "zeitenwende" shortly after the invasion of Ukraine. This hasn't actually changed anything and there are big question marks about Germany's commitment to isolating Russia.

With the bloc in disarray, and Germany's history (living memory) of land grabbing and warmongering, is there even an outside chance we might see Germany make a move?

Just something to be wary of.

Does this mean Aldi & Lidl will continue to sell Russian dolls, unless there's an embargo on them

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Exactly . . .the sad reality is, It's more likely to happen here than there.

I would be interested to see some stats to back up that assertion. Perhaps relative success of far right parties at elections in both countries ?

 

[zefarelly]

I would be interested to see some stats to back up that assertion. Perhaps relative success of far right parties at elections in both countries ?

That would be an interesting comparisson, I've no idea what the press is like in Germany, particularly the eastern end . . . One would hope its better than our frothing rags.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

NSFW


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9ItTrosTB0

 

[Guinness Boy]

Some Danish nazi trolling our immigrants... it will blow over.

Not orchestrated by The Big Lodge to fulfil the September 2022 part of the 200 year plan for Swedish governments then?

 

[Swansman]

Not orchestrated by The Big Lodge to fulfil the September 2022 part of the 200 year plan for Swedish governments then?

Maybe maybe not. Wouldnt surprise me.

Here we have a bloke doing book burning, something up until now associated with nazi shite, to provoke muslims and all the media focus is on (or against) the muslims protesting it. Basically feeding the Sweden Democrats votes and a very reasonable chance that they are giving the Swedish Nigel Farage-equivalent a lot of votes in the September election, possibly even the prime minister role.

 

[saafend_seagull]

A third of Germany’s oil imports, 45 percent of its coal purchases and 55 percent of gas imports come from Russia.

They're fooked without it.

At the same time 3/4 of their exports are to the rest of the EU and the USA so they're fookt without that.

Same for Poland. They stopped importing from Russia already.


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[deletebeepbeepbeep]

A bit rich when we are proposing to deport immigrants to camps in another country for processing.

 

[Bakero]

A bit rich when we are proposing to deport immigrants to camps in another country for processing.

This. At least England doesn't have a "history of land-grabbing and warmongering" though

 

[Bold Seagull]

Same for Poland. They stopped importing from Russia already.

They haven't yet, they've said they're going to target cutting off Russian gas and oil by the end of the year, they are targeting stopping coal imports in the next few months. Poland already had less reliance on Russian gas than Germany. It's a big statement by them though, and it's not a criticism in anyway, just a view that your statement above isn't correct.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

Hows about we settle this the old fashioned way:

Stazi + KGB take on Seals + SAS in a mass fisticuffs.
Nucamp holds about 100k [for the blood-thirsty] spectators.

Last man standing takes all, numbers limited to 50 per team ...

PPV for anyone else interested.

Film rights for a Gladiators sequel

sorted ....

 

[cunning fergus]

They haven't yet, they've said they're going to target cutting off Russian gas and oil by the end of the year, they are targeting stopping coal imports in the next few months. Poland already had less reliance on Russian gas than Germany. It's a big statement by them though, and it's not a criticism in anyway, just a view that your statement above isn't correct.

I will take a bet with you it’s not oils and gas this year……

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...-eu-ban-on-natural-gas-from-russia/ar-AAWl3VT

Still they are talking the right game publicly, and for many that’s all that really matters.

 

[cunning fergus]

Germany also lags behind defence spending with something like 1.5% of GDP compared to the UKs 2.2%. They’ve also post reunification always supported diplomacy over conflict, whereas we’ve been heavily involved in Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

As others have said also a lead voice in the European political union that has largely bought peace to the continent. You could argue leaving political unions destabilises peace rather than reinforcing it.

Hmm……it was 1.2% when Mutti got roasted by the Donald.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ells-nato-allies-to-spend-4-of-gdp-on-defence

#justsayin

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

No.

They're standing up with the rest of the World against Putin.

.

Are they though? Not enough according to Zlensky.

I guess they'd rather fund Putin's war machine rather than suffer a domestic recession.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/zelensky-has-snubbed-germany-s-president

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60777050