Are Albion fans too nice?

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Cushions are 20% off today in the club shop so let's fill our boots!

You buy them bruv I'll throw them.

 

[jimbob5]

Agree - far too nice - other fans wouldn't put up with it after 2 top 6 finishes then this shower of shite

Coventry, Sheffield United, Portsmouth? Has being hard helped Cardiff and Leeds that much?

 

[tommynockers]

I don't blame Hyypia, I blame those who hired him, but that in itself gives me a dilema.

How do you voice your displeasure at a man who has chucked circa £200 million quid into the club?

Why not Hypia? Most of our tactical issues can be solved with common sense. If you can't do a job then don't apply for it!

i agree they should have seen he had no management experience, what he had was dreadful. So maybe you can blame both parties?

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Alternatively paper airplanes. Those clacker things are great for that. Up at Wembley loads got on the pitch.

 

[Ernest]

Far too nice, has the fight gone out of the supporters ? Seems now that apathy has replaced aggression, 700 instead of 1400 yesterday, season ticket holders missing home games by the thousands as they can't be bothered. Hyypia is not the problem though, unless BERK and his mob are replaced or have no influence on the first team and the manager manages then nothing will change so chanting Hyypia OUT has no point to it.

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

They say all generalisations are bad, but Bozza does have a point.

Look at the demographics of Brighton, and compare us to say Blackburn when they had trouble with Steve Keane as their manager. One is a middle class, 'fairly' affluent middle class area if you include the catchment area of it support. The other has a history of working mans protest and possibly a physce of a greater willingness to voice their feelings in a more open manner.

I get people will point to history, and the movement which saved our club came from the terraces - led by a working class group of supporters. However since 1997 the shadow of Thatcherism has - on the whole - been lifted from Sussex and times are relatively good compared to Blackburn. So in the past, yes we weren't 'too nice' but since the AMEX a lot has changed at this club. Christ I remember going to Cheatersfield away and Albion fans were knocking the shite out of each other in the middle of the street in 2001.
Since 2011 we have more women, more families and on the whole we realise where we came from in 1996/97 and appreciate what we have. These new football fans / or ones who didn't go to the majority of seasons at Withdean are not your dyed in the wool working class fan, so they are used to the comfy seat padded surroundings.
What it needs is for the sizeable majority who now want Hyypia out to be led by the same or similar demographic who have led protests in the past, the middle class fans also need to step up - but it will need a spark to start this.
In short - the demographic of NSC isn't too nice, but other Albion fans who don't post on here are. However if we organise some collective action Hyypia will leave.

Just realise I've ranted like bloody Marx - and I call myself a Tory. (I'll go and sit in a dark room for a while).

 

[Taybha]

Bloom goes to plenty of games, seen him on the train coming back from away games many times.

He was on the train last night and asked outright would he be sacking Sami on monday ,the reply will not please the masses but its not like Mr Bloom would be that daft to say yes lads put your money on it.

As for the question about Brighton fans being to nice i would say you are about to find out the answer to that on friday night , there was quite a bit of anger directed at Hyppia during the game and at half time on the concourse , but not by all , there will not be 28k there on friday but i suspect the people that do show up will let Hyppia have it big time if things start to go pear shape .

For the 1st time in years i felt let down by the team yesterday and i cant see how a manager can regain a set of players trust and confidence once that has been lost , and both those things it seems have surely been lost looking at the players body language after the game toward Hyppia , he may as well have been a pitch invader and not the manager.

 

[jimbob5]

They say all generalisations are bad, but Bozza does have a point.

Look at the demographics of Brighton, and compare us to say Blackburn when they had trouble with Steve Keane as their manager. One is a middle class, 'fairly' affluent middle class area if you include the catchment area of it support. The other has a history of working mans protest and possibly a physce of a greater willingness to voice their feelings in a more open manner.

I get people will point to history, and the movement which saved our club came from the terraces - led by a working class group of supporters. However since 1997 the shadow of Thatcherism has - on the whole - been lifted from Sussex and times are relatively good compared to Blackburn. So in the past, yes we weren't 'too nice' but since the AMEX a lot has changed at this club. Christ I remember going to Cheatersfield away and Albion fans were knocking the shite out of each other in the middle of the street in 2001.
Since 2011 we have more women, more families and on the whole we realise where we came from in 1996/97 and appreciate what we have. These new football fans / or ones who didn't go to the majority of seasons at Withdean are not your dyed in the wool working class fan, so they are used to the comfy seat padded surroundings.
What it needs is for the sizeable majority who now want Hyypia out to be led by the same or similar demographic who have led protests in the past, the middle class fans also need to step up - but it will need a spark to start this.
In short - the demographic of NSC isn't too nice, but other Albion fans who don't post on here are. However if we organise some collective action Hyypia will leave.

Just realise I've ranted like bloody Marx - and I call myself a Tory. (I'll go and sit in a dark room for a while).

I don't know if Marx ranted but whether you agreed with him or not, he was more capable of backing up his theories than Joe Poster on these type of forums.

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

I don't know if Marx ranted but whether you agreed with him or not, he was more capable of backing up his theories than Joe Poster on these type of forums.

Having read Marx many times. Including Capital, he does make some points, but you have to filter out a lot of rants which act as page fillers! Obviously the above is just IMO and given time in sure I could find statistics to show the disparity of wealth between my two examples!

 

[Mr Bridger]

This is what it will be like if we got to the prem, although having said that some if our recent recruits are like it now.

 

[Working class pride]

They say all generalisations are bad, but Bozza does have a point.

Look at the demographics of Brighton, and compare us to say Blackburn when they had trouble with Steve Keane as their manager. One is a middle class, 'fairly' affluent middle class area if you include the catchment area of it support. The other has a history of working mans protest and possibly a physce of a greater willingness to voice their feelings in a more open manner.

I get people will point to history, and the movement which saved our club came from the terraces - led by a working class group of supporters. However since 1997 the shadow of Thatcherism has - on the whole - been lifted from Sussex and times are relatively good compared to Blackburn. So in the past, yes we weren't 'too nice' but since the AMEX a lot has changed at this club. Christ I remember going to Cheatersfield away and Albion fans were knocking the shite out of each other in the middle of the street in 2001.
Since 2011 we have more women, more families and on the whole we realise where we came from in 1996/97 and appreciate what we have. These new football fans / or ones who didn't go to the majority of seasons at Withdean are not your dyed in the wool working class fan, so they are used to the comfy seat padded surroundings.
What it needs is for the sizeable majority who now want Hyypia out to be led by the same or similar demographic who have led protests in the past, the middle class fans also need to step up - but it will need a spark to start this.
In short - the demographic of NSC isn't too nice, but other Albion fans who don't post on here are. However if we organise some collective action Hyypia will leave.

Just realise I've ranted like bloody Marx - and I call myself a Tory. (I'll go and sit in a dark room for a while).

Its all about opinions, but this is the biggest load of horse manure that I have read for a long time. Brighton's support comes from Whitehawk, Newhaven and places like that. That is why Brighton had the movement in the 1990's and well you cant ignore that goal posts came down. Brighton also has a vast support (like Leeds) and (like Leeds) they have a diverse support from people on the dole to the chairman of the board. I also would like to get rid of the myth that is offensive and that runs through your post, that "middle class" people are nice and "working class people" are not. The working class people I know and who have been at the Albion for generations are nothing but nice and would never rip down a goal post.

 

[Goldstone1976]

He was on the train last night and asked outright would he be sacking Sami on monday ,the reply will not please the masses but its not like Mr Bloom would be that daft to say yes lads put your money on it.

What was his answer?

 

[vegster]

Are we " Too Nice " ? has Bozza forgotten Danny Seagull ?

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

Its all about opinions, but this is the biggest load of horse manure that I have read for a long time. Brighton's support comes from Whitehawk, Newhaven and places like that. That is why Brighton had the movement in the 1990's and well you cant ignore that goal posts came down. Brighton also has a vast support (like Leeds) and (like Leeds) they have a diverse support from people on the dole to the chairman of the board. I also would like to get rid of the myth that is offensive and that runs through your post, that "middle class" people are nice and "working class people" are not. The working class people I know and who have been at the Albion for generations are nothing but nice and would never rip down a goal post.

Coming from a family which lives in Whitehawk, I completely take your point. But can you not accept that the days the core support does not make up the attendance at the AMEX. For one they have been priced out of the game anyway!
I think my post accepted that in the 1990s are fans weren't too nice but there has been a shift in demographic since we moved to the AMEX.
You use the example of Leeds - right now we do yes, but it's not just a zero sum game in terms of numbers, the demographic of Leeds to an Albion fan is totally different in the post-AMEX era. I wouldn't suggest working class people are not nice at all! I would suggest that because WC people know what it's like to have less they are more willing to voice their opinions on wanting change. (That is the whole of bloody history right there).
The people who ripped down the goalposts, or who organised it were led by a Proud Working class Socialist.

 

[jimbob5]

Coming from a family which lives in Whitehawk, I completely take your point. But can you not accept that the days the core support does not make up the attendance at the AMEX. For one they have been priced out of the game anyway!
I think my post accepted that in the 1990s are fans weren't too nice but there has been a shift in demographic since we moved to the AMEX.
You use the example of Leeds - right now we do yes, but it's not just a zero sum game in terms of numbers, the demographic of Leeds to an Albion fan is totally different in the post-AMEX era. I wouldn't suggest working class people are not nice at all! I would suggest that because WC people know what it's like to have less they are more willing to voice their opinions on wanting change. (That is the whole of bloody history right there).
The people who ripped down the goalposts, or who organised it were led by a Proud Working class Socialist.

Why were they socialists?

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

Why were they socialists?

He called himself one!

 

[Working class pride]

Coming from a family which lives in Whitehawk, I completely take your point. But can you not accept that the days the core support does not make up the attendance at the AMEX. For one they have been priced out of the game anyway!
I think my post accepted that in the 1990s are fans weren't too nice but there has been a shift in demographic since we moved to the AMEX.
You use the example of Leeds - right now we do yes, but it's not just a zero sum game in terms of numbers, the demographic of Leeds to an Albion fan is totally different in the post-AMEX era. I wouldn't suggest working class people are not nice at all! I would suggest that because WC people know what it's like to have less they are more willing to voice their opinions on wanting change. (That is the whole of bloody history right there).
The people who ripped down the goalposts, or who organised it were led by a Proud Working class Socialist.

I dnt agree Brighton have a less working class support. From Newhaven to Whitehawk to Hastings, Brighton have some of the most deprived areas in the country. It also has nice villages but in many villages, there is also working class agricultural workers. Sussex also has wealthy people, as does Yorkshire and any county. There is also in Sussex towns like Horsham where people often work in London but who cant afford to buy a house in London. I also do not agree that the goal posts came down by people because they were working class. There were all sorts of people involved that day. Since Bloom the support is back to what it was in roughly the late 1970's but yes the world has moved on since the 1970's. Again, I will also say that Bozza's post was tapping into the press myth about Brighton that 1. we dont have a big support (we do) and 2. its not a working class support (it is as much as any other club). It also is a mildly offensive post to equate middle class with "nice" and "working class" with not nice (or socialist for that matter). Working in m industry I can say that if only many middle class people had the values of working class people then the world would be a better place. Its also the same myth that equates working class with not working, and being badly behaved. That is not my experience of working class either. But there we go.

 

[Taybha]

What was his answer?

 

[jimbob5]

He called himself one!

And everyone involved was influenced by his socialist philosophy to the extent that they decided to pull the goal posts down?

 

[Goldstone1976]

As explicit as that? Just "no, I'm not sacking him"? No wiggle room? Sheesh.