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The most curious thing..
No they don't.

If you're driving a motor vehicle on a road, then a constable in uniform may require you to stop at any time they want to. Furthermore, they have the power to require you to produce your driving licence, certificate of insurance, and confirm your name, address, and date of birth.

Section 163, Road Traffic Act 1988. You're welcome.
Local Sussex fuzz tried to breathalise my mother last week at 11.00 in the morning after they hit her car wing mirror

Except she is 89 with chronic asthma and couldn't blow hard enough to get a reading.

They had to get a sergeant down from Crawley ffs who took an hour to get there. Total shambles and complete waste of time and money.

They didn't breathalyse the rozzer driving the car that hit her. Can't imagine why.

Pathetic.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Correct, although you don't need to have the documents on you at the time.

Friend of mine was stopped on his motorcycle a few years back. Plod just wanted a chat about being visible as a motorcyclist and handed over a hi vis vest.
Sue Ellen Braverman will soon make that illegal as it is showing political bias in favour of, er, law abiding citizens. They should be directing their hard-won resources towards catching criminals. It. Is. A. DISGRACE.
 


Horses Arse

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No they don't.

If you're driving a motor vehicle on a road, then a constable in uniform may require you to stop at any time they want to. Furthermore, they have the power to require you to produce your driving licence, certificate of insurance, and confirm your name, address, and date of birth.

Section 163, Road Traffic Act 1988. You're welcome.
Walkers! Bloody spell check!
 




Seaview Seagull

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That Act was written before the days of the internet and so on. You can pretty much find out if a car is insured/taxed and so on immediately now - so they'd be hard-pushed to have 'reasonable grounds'.

In fact - three minutes, my car's ok!

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True except that check doesn't prove the driver is insured to drive that car.For that you need the insurance certificate.
 






dsr-burnley

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I would be interested to know @edna krabappel 's thoughts on the Met's prosecution of this case.

Crystal Palace star Odsonne Edouard’s driving convictions overturned after court blunder
If the police believe that sending a letter by Royal Mail is sufficient to make the assumption that they have received it, then they haven't been living in the real world for quite some time.

Quite apart from the irony of noting that Edouard's English isn't very good, while their own language skills were so poor they couldn't even copy out his name correctly.
 






BN9 BHA

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Local Sussex fuzz tried to breathalise my mother last week at 11.00 in the morning after they hit her car wing mirror

Except she is 89 with chronic asthma and couldn't blow hard enough to get a reading.

They had to get a sergeant down from Crawley ffs who took an hour to get there. Total shambles and complete waste of time and money.

They didn't breathalyse the rozzer driving the car that hit her. Can't imagine why.

Pathetic.
The 1970s have just called, they would like their nicknames for the police back please :smile:
 


Lady Whistledown

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If the police believe that sending a letter by Royal Mail is sufficient to make the assumption that they have received it, then they haven't been living in the real world for quite some time.
The Royal Mail thing is nothing to do with the police. The law states that sending by first class post to an individual's last known address- or the address they give- means a summons is deemed to be served (there are other means of serving it but that's the primary one).

By all means campaign for them to be sent recorded delivery, or via DPD or some other courier service, but who do you think will end up paying for that??
 


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