Anyone heard the allegations against Trump?

[Albumen]

This is interesting and actually debunks Trump mocking disability.

https://youtu.be/D9ORZqwegSA

They've got you then.

I think you're the only one here that's been got.

1 x disability impression which is totally different to the 2 x flustered impressions in that video.

 

[Buzzer]

I agree with that but I'd find it hard to reconcile how someone can be a Trump supporter and proclaim Adam Smith as his hero.

I agree completely. Trump is protectionist and wants to impose all sorts of tariffs. Economically, what he's proposing could quite easily have come from a Naomi Klein book, he's about as far as a capitalist could be from being a classic liberal or ever a neo-liberal. Therein lies one of the many paradoxes with the alt-right. Proclaim themselves as vanguards of a libertarian revolution yet their champion wants a nanny state.

 

[symyjym]

I think it's more a case of an extreme religious fringe group that has Trump by the knackers but is lacking any credibility has also got you.

It is remarkable that you're not prepared to accept the simple fact that he did a spasmo impression to imitate a disabled journalist.

To be fair using the term "spasmo" is insulting in its own right.

I've seen better impressions of disabled people tbh. If he stuck his tongue in his bottom lip there would be no shoadow of doubt.

 

[W.C.]

Summary of symjym vid

Catholics for trump did all the research
Donald trump says he saw arabs in US celebrating 911 attacks
nasty libs call him out
Digs out some report from obscure cbs affiliate with no direct sources and areport from one journalist with no direct sources
claims media are embarrassed so have to make a diversion
trumps does impression of "someone flustered" about jopurnalist
Trump has done other flustered arm movements, though they dont look much like the journalist ones
Left wing media uses this to distract from their cover up or some such shit

I'm amazed you bothered but yep, that about covers it.

 

[Simster]

To be fair using the term "spasmo" is insulting in its own right.

I've seen better impressions of disabled people tbh. If he stuck his tongue in his bottom lip there would be no shoadow of doubt.

I know. I should have put the word in quotes to illustrate that what Trump did was akin to using that word.

 

[symyjym]

You are going to have to clarify this for me please.

Is your DEFENCE of Trump's mocking of a disabled man with a 'spazz' gesture, actually that he mocks other (non-disabled) people by comparing them to the disabled?

Just to be clear.

Using that word is also insulting to disabled people.

 

[Goldstone1976]

Oh God. We're going to have four years (possibly eight) of this sort of "debate" on NSC, aren't we? I can't wait.

 

[ROSM]

"They"? I think my previous posts on this thread kind of prove that I'm capable of making my own mind up based on the evidence to hand.

Never thought I'd see the day when someone accused [MENTION=5200]Buzzer[/MENTION] of being hoodwinked by the establishment

 

[Buzzer]

Never thought I'd see the day when someone accused [MENTION=5200]Buzzer[/MENTION] of being hoodwinked by the establishment

We are the sheeple.

 

[Mellotron]

To be fair using the term "spasmo" is insulting in its own right.

I've seen better impressions of disabled people tbh. If he stuck his tongue in his bottom lip there would be no shoadow of doubt.

The fact we're even discussing around this area as something that COULD even be true makes it pretty obvious that we're talking about a massive **** though, obviously you acknowledge that?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Using that word is also insulting to disabled people.

It is supposed to be. Its the (only) accurate description of the intent and tone of what Trump is (very clearly) displaying.

 

[symyjym]

I know. I should have put the word in quotes to illustrate that what Trump did was akin to using that word.

It wouldn't matter how you used it. Disabled reporter would have been enough.

He used the same gesturing in reference to Ted Cruz and an army general. Therefore it is not conclusive that he was mocking the reporter.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It wouldn't matter how you used it. Disabled reporter would have been enough.

He used the same gesturing in reference to Ted Cruz and an army general. Therefore it is not conclusive that he was mocking the reporter.

May I suggest that you watch it again. The movements are similar in that he shook both hands, but there is a definite difference between the movement for the journalist and the other two occasions. For instance, for the disabled journalist, his fingers were bent and locked, whereas the other two were open handed.

 

[beorhthelm]

It wouldn't matter how you used it. Disabled reporter would have been enough.

He used the same gesturing in reference to Ted Cruz and an army general. Therefore it is not conclusive that he was mocking the reporter.

he didnt purposfully put down his notes to gesture for Cruz or the general did he though? pretty conclusive he was doing a deliberate action, not just a casual gesture.

 

[symyjym]

The fact we're even discussing around this area as something that COULD even be true makes it pretty obvious that we're talking about a massive **** though, obviously you acknowledge that?

Well like yourself I was shocked about the reported mocking of a disabled reporter. Not so much now.

I haven't got an opinion of him being a massive shit but I am certain that the world is better off without Clinton.

 

[AK74]

It wouldn't matter how you used it. Disabled reporter would have been enough.

He used the same gesturing in reference to Ted Cruz and an army general. Therefore it is not conclusive that he was mocking the reporter.

In your opinion. Others, including myself, take a different view of what Trump did and why he did it.

 

[seagulls4ever]

To be fair to Trump he does make ridiculous expressions all the time. At first glance, it appears obvious that he mocked a disabled reporter, specifically because of his disability. When you subsequently watch older videos of him, the picture becomes a lot less clear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aYFC_7ZIn4

 

[symyjym]

he didnt purposfully put down his notes to gesture for Cruz or the general did he though? pretty conclusive he was doing a deliberate action, not just a casual gesture.

What you going on about? He didn't have any notes in his hand to put down when talking about Cruz. If that is what makes the difference it's a pretty weak observation.

 

[beorhthelm]

What you going on about? He didn't have any notes in his hand to put down when talking about Cruz. If that is what makes the difference it's a pretty weak observation.

quite, and seen as a casual gesture. with the reporter episode, he very deliberatly puts down what he is holding to enable him to make his "impression". he wants to make that gesture, you judge why. seems plenty of people have, its his bed to lie in.

 

[Mellotron]

I agree completely. Trump is protectionist and wants to impose all sorts of tariffs. Economically, what he's proposing could quite easily have come from a Naomi Klein book, he's about as far as a capitalist could be from being a classic liberal or ever a neo-liberal. Therein lies one of the many paradoxes with the alt-right. Proclaim themselves as vanguards of a libertarian revolution yet their champion wants a nanny state.

yeah but KILLARY SO SHUT UP