Anyone going to the Downing Street Protests?

[studio150]

Well it seems the UK has returned to normal, and the protest achieved not a lot. Cameron is still PM and has not resigned, infact #Camersonresign is no longer trending having been overtaken by #thevoiceukFINAL and #BritainsGotTalent. A normal Saturday night.

The Revolution will have to start next week, but what to protest about.

Right on sisters and brothers, Power to the People.

 

[Diablo]

got a few like everyone else

Britain is a country where you can get on

people need to take a good look at themselves sometimes

Here here....Stop moaning and work hard to improve your lot rather than berating those that do..

 

[Soul Finger]

A few people I know relentlessly share anti-government propaganda on Facebook. It really is a sight to behold.

I fully expect them not to take part in this protest because it involves actually doing something.

More power to them.

If it makes one person realise the absolute piss that is being ripped out of us all each day, then it will have served a purpose..

It is significantly better - and a damned sight more interesting - than 'what I'm having for dinner' pictures.

I've been on a few marches in the last couple of years - NHS, Darlo mums, People's Assembly - but, unfortunately, had to work today.

I loathe the Tories, and every, single thing they represent, and sincerely hope Cameron gets what's coming to him, the hypocritical, people-hating, tax-avoiding, ****.

 

[studio150]

, tax-avoiding, ****.

When has he avoided paying UK tax, please enlighten us, as I have yet to read or see anything which says he has.

Also if you have an ISA please remember that investing funds into your account is tax avoidance, but like all tax avoidance is perfectly legal.

 

[clapham_gull]

Now, I'd rather eat my own hair than vote for the Tories - but I'm struggling a bit to see really what the PM has done wrong beyond what thousands do on a yearly basis. As a child and grandparent of stock brokers what he has earned friom playing the money casino seems quite light.

As for the new seemingly "advoidance" of inheritance tax, well I've benefited a little from the same. Nothing I did, something a relative did without my knowledge.

I'd be amazed if they aren't Labour MPs who are guilty of much more.

Can't stand the bloke - but really , unlesss there is more there are far easier things to attack the current Government more than this.

Lazy....

It will just open others up on the left to accusations of hypocrisy,

Like Irvine Welsh on QT last night.

 

[Captain Sensible]

What was it all about then? Protesting about someone making an investment and then paying tax on it?

 

[TotallyFreaked]

Looks like the right and left wing press are baying for blood

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-36008288

 

[brighton fella]

I have to say, as an Accident and Emergency nurse, that over my twenty odd years in and around critical care I have seen the disaster that is A&E under both the tories and labour. People with broken hips being toileted in the corridor because there's no beds, old people bed blocking because social care has imploded, mums being told their little boy has died in a sluice room because there is no relative room free...all of those things happen exclusively under Tory rule. I've seen it all before. It's so, so, sad and depressing that all of the good done by new labour has been sacrificed in a mad rush to privatise social care and slash community support for the elderly.

had enough experience at A&E/hospital to last me a lifetime what with the amount of deaths and illnesses that i sadly happened to witness, all were close family and their treatment was no better than what you would come to expect from some third world sh*thole excuse of a hospital, left in corridors unattended and in pain for hours all because as you rightly put it there were no available beds, f*cking disgraceful and it will stay with me for as long as i live.
i cannot comment on the state the NHS was in before cameron arrived in office but i will say that new labour seemed to be no different as they were privatising parts of the NHS as well. in fact the blame lies with them for much of the sheer madness we are currently faced with today as it was them who first encouraged immigration of a scale never witnessed before upon it's shores, it was inevitable and only a matter of time before the impact took a strangle hold upon the NHS .leading only to it's downfall and decline. the strain was way too much and i cannot see it improving unless some drastic measures are taken... . .
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[1066gull]

I have to say, as an Accident and Emergency nurse, that over my twenty odd years in and around critical care I have seen the disaster that is A&E under both the tories and labour. People with broken hips being toileted in the corridor because there's no beds, old people bed blocking because social care has imploded, mums being told their little boy has died in a sluice room because there is no relative room free...all of those things happen exclusively under Tory rule. I've seen it all before. It's so, so, sad and depressing that all of the good done by new labour has been sacrificed in a mad rush to privatise social care and slash community support for the elderly.

Hope you're supporting the junior doctors.

A few half a dozen posts after you someone talks about immigration and I completely resent people blaming other minorities for the problems of the NHS or our welfare state. It's all lies that has been fabricated by the right wing press for decades.

I said it earlier, in the 80s people blamed the Irish coming here taking our jobs, in the 90s it was the Polish, in the 2000s it was the Baltic Bloc lot and in the 2010s it's been all about Muslims. Nothing changes with this rhetoric other than who it is to blame. This is the exact same thing that got the Jews persecuted in the 1930s.

I also totally agree that new Labour wasn't perfect. Blair after all pulled them away from the left to the right but they wernt as bad as the Tories. It's true Blair started the ball rolling for the breakup of the NHS. In a way he was Thatcher's child but Thatcher wasn't stupid enough to touch the NHS, contrary to all the manufacting and mining industries she decimated. This country has been crying out for a proper left for years and we finally have somebody with the decent morals of Corbyn. Protecting our NHS is fundamentally important but there is also the issue of housing which hasn't been properly addressed for the last 40 years - we haven't been building enough. The NHS is so bad because it is being chronically underfunded, which is always the first step to privatisation. Making the masses angry so there is no option but to get private investment in. The whole process stinks. If we leave the EU than the Tories will press ahead with TTIP and all our services will be sold out quicker. Staying in the EU is much safer. Finally, back to immigration. People who come here are not the problem, but they are perceived to be by the media to hide the real problem that is underpinning all our public services. If we carry on like this for another 10 years than we won't have a free health service anymore.

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[pastafarian]

Hope you're supporting the junior doctors.

A few half a dozen posts after you someone talks about immigration and I completely resent people blaming other minorities for the problems of the NHS or our welfare state. It's all lies that has been fabricated by the right wing press for decades.

I said it earlier, in the 80s people blamed the Irish coming here taking our jobs, in the 90s it was the Polish, in the 2000s it was the Baltic Bloc lot and in the 2010s it's been all about Muslims. Nothing changes with this rhetoric other than who it is to blame. This is the exact same thing that got the Jews persecuted in the 1930s.

I also totally agree that new Labour wasn't perfect. Blair after all pulled them away from the left to the right but they wernt as bad as the Tories. It's true Blair started the ball rolling for the breakup of the NHS. In a way he was Thatcher's child but Thatcher wasn't stupid enough to touch the NHS, contrary to all the manufacting and mining industries she decimated. This country has been crying out for a proper left for years and we finally have somebody with the decent morals of Corbyn. Protecting our NHS is fundamentally important but there is also the issue of housing which hasn't been properly addressed for the last 40 years - we haven't been building enough. The NHS is so bad because it is being chronically underfunded, which is always the first step to privatisation. Making the masses angry so there is no option but to get private investment in. The whole process stinks. If we leave the EU than the Tories will press ahead with TTIP and all our services will be sold out quicker. Staying in the EU is much safer. Finally, back to immigration. People who come here are not the problem, but they are perceived to be by the media to hide the real problem that is underpinning all our public services. If we carry on like this for another 10 years than we won't have a free health service anymore.

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here is an assessment of Corbyn by other socialists for his first 6 months,they are very scathing

Corbyn’s six months as UK Labour leader: A record of capitulation and betrayal
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/03/24/pers-m24.html

more worryingly who has told you TTIP is a Tory thing. I would love to know who has been spinning this to you?they have lied to you
TTIP is an EU treaty,its not a tory treaty,if you hate it that much you should vote to leave.....a vote to stay is enabling TTIP

 

[Westdene Seagull]

If we leave the EU than the Tories will press ahead with TTIP and all our services will be sold out quicker. Staying in the EU is much safer.

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You do realise that TTIP is an EU deal with the USA don't you ? i.e. we stay in the EU and we're automatically signed up to TTIP.

Sent from my Microsoft Surface with a cheap nasty keyboard but who the hell cares how I posted ?

 

[1066gull]

You do realise that TTIP is an EU deal with the USA don't you ? i.e. we stay in the EU and we're automatically signed up to TTIP.

Sent from my Microsoft Surface with a cheap nasty keyboard but who the hell cares how I posted ?

Has to be accepted by all European states and a few countries are against it so there's more chance to fight it.

By leaving we will sign up because the Tories want it.

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[pastafarian]

You do realise that TTIP is an EU deal with the USA don't you ? i.e. we stay in the EU and we're automatically signed up to TTIP.

Sent from my Microsoft Surface with a cheap nasty keyboard but who the hell cares how I posted ?

I dont blame 1066 for this viewpoint,i hear it often....some people are spreading some ridiculous balls about TTIP and it being a nasty tory thing..........its astonishing though so many people think its a tory policy and not a EU thing......

 

[pastafarian]

Has to be accepted by all European states and a few countries are against it so there's more chance to fight it.

By leaving we will sign up because the Tories want it.

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Its a EU treaty chap for people in the EU club
if we left the EU club how would we be able to sign up for it......we would be out of the permitted signatories club

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Has to be accepted by all European states and a few countries are against it so there's more chance to fight it.

By leaving we will sign up because the Tories want it.

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With respect, that is utter bollocks. The discussions are between the EU and USA. The idea being that it gives both parties better access to each market. The Tories might support it but they can't just sign up to a deal as the UK if we're outside the EU.

 

[1066gull]

Its a EU treaty chap for people in the EU club
if we left the EU club how would we be able to sign up for it......we would be out of the permitted signatories club

It stands for Trans Atlantic Trade & investment Partnership.

Nothing in the name suggests the EU. TTIP and the TPP were set up by >>American<< companies. The reason these corporations want it is so they can legally sue any government for the loss of profits the endure through taxation and other investment. Just think the NHS having to pay pharmaceutical companies legal fees because pharma want making enough profit. This isn't a American or EU government thing, this is being orchestrated by big business.

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[1066gull]

Its a EU treaty chap for people in the EU club
if we left the EU club how would we be able to sign up for it......we would be out of the permitted signatories club

Again, show me proof. I think I've articulated myself quite well. You're just fear mongering to help the Brexit camp.

TPP is the Trans Pacific Partnership and it affects countries like Japan, NZ, Aus, South Korea. It's not just an Asian thing!!!

I have no idea where you get these ideas from

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[1066gull]

I dont blame 1066 for this viewpoint,i hear it often....some people are spreading some ridiculous balls about TTIP and it being a nasty tory thing..........its astonishing though so many people think its a tory policy and not a EU thing......

Could say pot kettle black about refugees and immigrants and all the rest of the EU bullshit the Brexiters keep proposing

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[pastafarian]

Again, show me proof.

may i suggest you read the official TTIP page from the EU
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/in-focus/ttip/index_en.htm

it really isnt a tory policy thing its a EU wide treaty

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Has to be accepted by all European states and a few countries are against it so there's more chance to fight it.

By leaving we will sign up because the Tories want it.

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