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perseus

Broad Blue & White stripe
Jul 5, 2003
23,461
Sūþseaxna


Seagulls Downunder

Active member
Mar 3, 2008
503
Sydney
The Argus do a sponsored ride to Paris and gets you there the day before The Tour finishes.
They also do the South Down Way ride in May, get in some training for this one if you don't ride much.
 




Was not Was

Loitering with intent
Jul 31, 2003
1,607
If the car in front of you indicates to turn left across you, it is acceptable to keep going and undertake the car just as it turns.

Given your sarcastic intent, that is really not f***ing funny at all. Dozens of cyclists die every year because vehicles cut them up just as you clearly feel you have a right to. When you cut up a cyclist to turn left, you're putting their life on the line.
 


hola gus

New member
Aug 8, 2010
1,797
Given your sarcastic intent, that is really not f***ing funny at all. Dozens of cyclists die every year because vehicles cut them up just as you clearly feel you have a right to. When you cut up a cyclist to turn left, you're putting their life on the line.

Obviously you are completely missing his point! If a car in front of you is indicating to turn left, what you don't do is to continue cycling your bike inside of it. Its not the car driver putting the cyclist's life in danger, it's the cyclist itself.
 


Was not Was

Loitering with intent
Jul 31, 2003
1,607
Obviously you are completely missing his point! If a car in front of you is indicating to turn left, what you don't do is to continue cycling your bike inside of it. Its not the car driver putting the cyclist's life in danger, it's the cyclist itself.

Hmm, this is hard to explain in words without a diagram. Maybe you're right, in which case I'll withdraw gracefully (I mean, obviously if someone's cycling behind an indicating car, they shouldn't pull up alongside).

But I don't recognise the problem you describe. What happens to me regularly as a cyclist (in London - maybe Brighton is different) is drivers from the the lane to my right (sometimes while overtaking and sometimes already ahead of me while travelling at a similar speed) pulling across my lane in order to turn left, forcing me to either crash or slow down/stop. It's called cutting up, and car drivers do this to cyclists much more than they do it to other car drivers.

And because it's such a frequent occurence, that's what I assumed [MENTION=11928]vegster[/MENTION] meant. I hope I'm wrong.
 




zfleas

Active member
Aug 8, 2011
383
Worthing
Obviously you are completely missing his point! If a car in front of you is indicating to turn left, what you don't do is to continue cycling your bike inside of it. Its not the car driver putting the cyclist's life in danger, it's the cyclist itself.

I agree with this, a motorcyclist wouldn't do it as its obviously dangerous, but some cyclists feel they have some sort of supreme right to cut everyone up. If a car (a small one albiet) cut in on the left side of a car as it was indicating left, and as the car turning left hit it, who would be at fault?
 


Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
Sadly Hola is right, as much as I hear you brother WNW.
All the time there are fellow cyclists other their playing fast and loose with there own lives, there's no clear cut answer, to this.
 


hola gus

New member
Aug 8, 2010
1,797
Not sure I understand the situation in London you describe???
Surely if traffic was entering your cycle lane and cutting you up, they would be underaking, not overtaking??? Unless you are not travelling in the same direction as the rest of the traffic flow that is?!!!


But I don't recognise the problem you describe. What happens to me regularly as a cyclist (in London - maybe Brighton is different) is drivers from the the lane to my right (sometimes while overtaking and sometimes already ahead of me while travelling at a similar speed) pulling across my lane in order to turn left, forcing me to either crash or slow down/stop. It's called cutting up, and car drivers do this to cyclists much more than they do it to other car drivers.

And because it's such a frequent occurence, that's what I assumed [MENTION=11928]vegster[/MENTION] meant. I hope I'm wrong.
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
Obviously you are completely missing his point! If a car in front of you is indicating to turn left, what you don't do is to continue cycling your bike inside of it. Its not the car driver putting the cyclist's life in danger, it's the cyclist itself.

Thank you, my point entirely.
 


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