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[Travel] Anti Social Behaviour



LennyTee

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Feb 28, 2019
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Am sure many of you have seen the clips doing the rounds on social media of a lovely little child having a bit of a rant on a packed C2C commuter train. (if you haven't, it's easy enough to find).

My question is, if you were in that carriage what would you do?

Do nothing and she assumes its normal behaviour and carries on to the next day, but what can you actually do? If it was an adult you could confront them and maybe end up in a scuffle but that's fine as it's two adults scuffling, but a kid, you are pretty much stuck with having to put up with it.

I know it's a strange thread to start but am curious to people's responses as the interweb seems to be divided into those feeling sorry for her and she shouldn't be mocked and shared all over social media, those accusing the adults of bullying and those just finding it all very funny.

I fall into the finding it funny group but would like to think if I was in that carriage I'd offer to swap seats with the woman getting the abuse and hope it would die down.

I've not put the clip up for the reasons mentioned by people in the first group. I see her face has been blurred out on the newspaper sites.
 






Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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Having been a commuter and seen my fair share of this type I’d probably ignore it, but I do agree someone stepping in to split them up would have made sense.

The problem is you have no idea of what someone could do, who they might be with, do they have a weapon
 


Guinness Boy

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All a bit sad. The child is clearly mentally ill. We do all love a good freakshow though.
 


Mustafa II

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I think teenagers are probably best left alone if possible, as their undeveloped brains push boundaries that are detrimental to both themselves and others.

The exception would be when someone is being victimised and needs help.

The video you mention was of a troubled teenager being wound up and her reacting in a way that she felt was appropriate. Everyone should have ignored her.
 




LennyTee

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Feb 28, 2019
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Bedford
Could you not put a link up to give us a idea of what you are saying. That would be very helpful (y)
I could but like I said some opinions are it shouldn't be shared as the kid obviously has problems (their words, not mine) but is easy enough to find with a few key words in the old search engine.
 


Paulie Gualtieri

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If it’s the one I’m thinking of “stay in your lane fam” then there’s multiple videos at different times of her, wondered if staged to a degree
 


Beanstalk

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Apr 5, 2017
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She's not really a child, she's a clearly troubled teenager who is looking for a reaction.

Don't get involved. Remove the attention that people are giving her and there's just someone yelling about nothing.
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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It's all a bit distasteful really.

The clip being shared on social media, will either stigmatise, or glorify her amongst her peers.
It doesn't really help the situation.

Unfortunately the only way anyone really learns that this behaviour is not acceptable, is when they try it with someone with a similar level of anger and it all goes horribly wrong.

I have, on occasion, stuck my oar in with these types of situations and then regretted it.
There is often no reasoning with people, once the situation has escalated from the initial confrontation.
 


LennyTee

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Feb 28, 2019
166
Bedford
I think teenagers are probably best left alone if possible, as their undeveloped brains push boundaries that are detrimental to both themselves and others.

The exception would be when someone is being victimised and needs help.

The video you mention was of a troubled teenager being wound up and her reacting in a way that she felt was appropriate. Everyone should have ignored her.
I believe she was asked to stop vaping and it blew up from there. Ignoring is fine but then that normalises the behaviour and it carries on to the next day and her life, which in turn impacts other people, like all those people in the carriage trying to get some shut eye before work.
It should also be pointed out that there were a lot of kids in that carriage causing no issues whatsoever.
 
























LennyTee

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Feb 28, 2019
166
Bedford
This is the responsibility of the parents and, in their absence, the authorities.

There's no need to be vigilantes about it.
No one was been a vigilante about it. She is just been shamed by social media, rightly or wrongly.
So should the police be having a word with her?
As someone has said its not the crime of the century, so if the authorities are not interested is it up to the rest of us to police this behaviour with perfectly polite requests (that shouldn't be needed).
Am not digging you out, am just seriously wondering what can you do in a situation where you can't do anything really. Like I said earlier, if it's an adult you'd end up in a scuffle and a bit of hold me back. With a kid or troubled teen, where do you go after a polite request turns into a full on sweary rantathon.
 


dazzer6666

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Seen three of the videos……..she’s like a parody of Catherine Tate/Matt Lucas parodies including the faux ‘street ‘ accent etc

Seen several incidents in 25 years+ of commuting, usual commuter response is bury your nose in a newspape/ipad or stare out of the window and not get involved. If she was vaping and was told to stop it (perfectly ok but none of the clips seem to indicate this, only comments) that’s fine, but it’s virtually impossible to reason/argue with someone ranting that spectacularly so best not to bite in my experience. Would put money on her being a horrid little bully at school - will eventually come a cropper if she keeps up that behaviour.
 


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