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Anti Falmer propaganda in The Times today



ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,776
Just far enough away from LDC
This is my response (sent yesterday)

Sir,

I was highly intrigued by the comment from Stephen Gardiner. I'm not sure just how many errors can be made in such a short piece, but Stephen seems to try and test the limit.

In short, Brighton and Hove is bordered on the south by the sea and to the north, west and east, by the South Downs. Herein lies the unique situation that any planning application needs to be viewed.

To say the site is in the National Park (a comment attributed to David Neighbour) is at best disingenuous and at worst deceitful. The application for a stadium is actually four applications:

1) A stadium
2) Coach pick up and drop off points
3) & 4) a road widening for approx 150 metres

Application 1 is totally within the Brighton and Hove City Boundary, application 2 is within Lewes District and 3 & 4 are split between the two. There is no firm agreed boundary for the new national park and so to say any of the applications are within a national park is clearly incorrect. The draft boundary has the stadium and part of the road outside of the national park with the coach point and remaining road within. However, National Park boundaries should be fixed on physical boundaries (e.g. hedgerows, roads etc) rather than borough/district ones which may be right in the middle of fields. As a result, it is likely that the final adopted boundary will be the B2123 road which will leave all 4 applications outside of the National Park. All land not within the National Park will lose its AONB status.

It is also incorrect to refer to the 'twin villages of Falmer'. They are one village - separated by the A27 6 lane road. The building of this effectively damaged the AONB status once and for all (the AONB was devised 40 years ago and has avoided being redrawn due to the impending National Park). Finally, over 40% of the stadium site has already been developed and is therefore, brownfield land. I bet David Neighbour, Lead Councillor for Planning at Lewes DC and the prime movers in opposing the stadium never mentioned that? I bet he also never mentioned the costs (£250k and rising) of their opposition. Nor the fact that they have never asked their electorate to sanction this spend and have consistently gone over budget.

Perhaps we'll leave that to the electorate in May?
 




somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
ROSM said:
This is my response (sent yesterday)

Sir,

I was highly intrigued by the comment from Stephen Gardiner. I'm not sure just how many errors can be made in such a short piece, but Stephen seems to try and test the limit.

In short, Brighton and Hove is bordered on the south by the sea and to the north, west and east, by the South Downs. Herein lies the unique situation that any planning application needs to be viewed.

To say the site is in the National Park (a comment attributed to David Neighbour) is at best disingenuous and at worst deceitful. The application for a stadium is actually four applications:

1) A stadium
2) Coach pick up and drop off points
3) & 4) a road widening for approx 150 metres

Application 1 is totally within the Brighton and Hove City Boundary, application 2 is within Lewes District and 3 & 4 are split between the two. There is no firm agreed boundary for the new national park and so to say any of the applications are within a national park is clearly incorrect. The draft boundary has the stadium and part of the road outside of the national park with the coach point and remaining road within. However, National Park boundaries should be fixed on physical boundaries (e.g. hedgerows, roads etc) rather than borough/district ones which may be right in the middle of fields. As a result, it is likely that the final adopted boundary will be the B2123 road which will leave all 4 applications outside of the National Park. All land not within the National Park will lose its AONB status.

It is also incorrect to refer to the 'twin villages of Falmer'. They are one village - separated by the A27 6 lane road. The building of this effectively damaged the AONB status once and for all (the AONB was devised 40 years ago and has avoided being redrawn due to the impending National Park). Finally, over 40% of the stadium site has already been developed and is therefore, brownfield land. I bet David Neighbour, Lead Councillor for Planning at Lewes DC and the prime movers in opposing the stadium never mentioned that? I bet he also never mentioned the costs (£250k and rising) of their opposition. Nor the fact that they have never asked their electorate to sanction this spend and have consistently gone over budget.

Perhaps we'll leave that to the electorate in May?

Great response,.... sadly it is likely to be lost on the one-eyed Range Rover brigade of middle England.
 


Thank goodness there are still people capable of making the LDC scum and their supporters look like the bunch of lying turds that they are.

TLO and ROSM-top efforts and I can't wait to see the response from The Daily Little Englander.
 


Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,097
Lancing
Yorkie said:
IF it is a direct quote from Neighbour then he is lying.

well knock me down with a feather, Neighbour, lying, surely not, hold the front page
 


Ex-Staffs Gull

New member
Jul 5, 2003
1,687
Adelaide, SA
This bloke, I seem to remember hearing from him before. If he is Stephen Gardiner CBE, he is an architect with Community architecture as his specialist subject, but seems to imply that it is the protection of the existing rather than the creating of new which should be pushed.

He is bound to agree with the Nimbys, it is a little read and frankly unimportant piece. Search through the archives on this bloke and realise how little you had heard of him before and will probably never hear from him again. Just ignore and don't give his articles the light of day or links on here.
 




Brixtaan

New member
Jul 7, 2003
5,030
Border country.East Preston.
Get that off immediatly TLO!:clap:
 


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