- Oct 17, 2008
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No problem!As i said, bit busy. But thanks
No problem!As i said, bit busy. But thanks
You're really sticking with your assertion that 1 yellow card (Adingra) by the 71st minute means the players had lost control?How many cards were handed out before the Dunk red card?
I enjoyed the MOTD interview with Steve Cooper who said, with a smile on his face that Anthony Taylor “is the number 1 referee in the country - apparently “. Will be interesting to see if this triggers the FA’s first ever charge against a manager for insincerity or sarcasm.
I had realised that there could be a yellow card for kicking the ball away but had not appreciated the wording. The law states that "Referees must caution players who delay the restart of play". That means that it is mandatory to caution a player in such circumstances. The only subjective element is whether it delays the start of play. That means that referees are probably not applying the laws on many occasions.I'm a bit of a stickler for rules (which I know makes me hard to please and a bit boring) but if we are talking about applying the letter of the law, advantage doesn't come into it. I think it sits in this category in the rule book, but it may be referred to elsewhere too:
DELAYING THE RESTART OF PLAY
Referees must caution players who delay the restart of play by:
- appearing to take a throw-in but suddenly leaving it to a team-mate to take
- delaying leaving the field of play when being substituted
- excessively delaying a restart
- kicking or carrying the ball away, or provoking a confrontation by deliberately touching the ball after the referee has stopped play
- taking a free kick from the wrong position to force a retake
Because of exactly your response. People don't want to believe it so they ignore it.Why, when pretty much any game and sport can be betted on would criminal gangs choose to fix the most watched and scrutinised league in the world? Also the money involved in corrupting the Premier League would be so much higher. It makes no sense imo.
The bit about delaying the restart of a game clearly didn't apply to the Forest player's who continuously stood over the ball to delay play after conceeding free kicks.I had realised that there could be a yellow card for kicking the ball away but had not appreciated the wording. The law states that "Referees must caution players who delay the restart of play". That means that it is mandatory to caution a player in such circumstances. The only subjective element is whether it delays the start of play. That means that referees are probably not applying the laws on many occasions.
Well it sort of looked like a smile to me, but it’s difficult to tell with Steve Cooper because he always looks like he’s been dragged out of bed after an all night benderThat was a smile??!!?
Dear God.
I am reminded of the Johnson interpretation of difference between 'should' (its up to you, do what you feel is best) and must (you have to do it).I had realised that there could be a yellow card for kicking the ball away but had not appreciated the wording. The law states that "Referees must caution players who delay the restart of play". That means that it is mandatory to caution a player in such circumstances. The only subjective element is whether it delays the start of play. That means that referees are probably not applying the laws on many occasions.
Hey, before the Glow Up the man could eat an apple through a letterbox.That was a smile??!!?
Dear God.
I would love Sky or someone to go through over a whole match with a ref, and get them to see how many yellows they would have to give out in a game, if these rules were followed to the letter. I reckon almost every other week substition for a side leading would lead to a booking.I'm a bit of a stickler for rules (which I know makes me hard to please and a bit boring) but if we are talking about applying the letter of the law, advantage doesn't come into it. I think it sits in this category in the rule book, but it may be referred to elsewhere too:
DELAYING THE RESTART OF PLAY
Referees must caution players who delay the restart of play by:
- appearing to take a throw-in but suddenly leaving it to a team-mate to take
- delaying leaving the field of play when being substituted
- excessively delaying a restart
- kicking or carrying the ball away, or provoking a confrontation by deliberately touching the ball after the referee has stopped play
- taking a free kick from the wrong position to force a retake
I think so SSB.Yes, I was right by that and couldn’t believe no action was taken. Wouldn’t that have been his second yellow if given?
You're really sticking with your assertion that 1 yellow card (Adingra) by the 71st minute means the players had lost control?
The contentious point is the Dunk yellow.
That was the flash point.
What was it for?
It was Zerberdi, not Zefarelli.Nope, I’m referring to the original point made by Zefarelli that
“by the time Dunky was rightly (but harshly) sent off, Taylor was handing out yellow cards like they were trick or treat sweets at Halloween”
IMO Taylor was not handing out yellow cards like they were trick or treat sweeties at Halloween by the time ‘Dunky’ was sent off because there were only two cards by that point.
It's interesting re the gambling angle. It's easier to bribe those involved in sports who might need the money a bit more - those "scraping" a living in the greyhounds and horse racing world, lower level snooker players (not much money in snooker for many). Wouldn't trust any betting in those, too likely to be bent. No idea how much Premier football referees earn but it'll sure be peanuts compared to the players.... so maybe refs can be bought. Hope not but I wouldn't be greatly surprised.You can't place twenty ten thousand pound bets on an Albanian third division match. It would completely swamp all other betting on the match and no bookie would take the bets. If you place those bets on an EPL match there's a chance the bets would be lost in the noise.
While I'm at it, I'm almost certain you mean "agree to disagree", not "beg to differ" on the two or three occasions you've written the latter on this thread. "Beg to differ" is literally asking for an argument.He will do so without me