[Other Sport] Anthony Joshua

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Herr Tubthumper

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HT heard a strange one the other day whilst at Lords ( North London rather than France) don’t really know what to make of it? 🤷‍♂️

Its either Olympic level BS or bizarrely credible?

Zelensky had told Usyk he can’t fight Fury at the moment because of the situation with Russia/Ukraine. Usyk is a national hero and a global figure in the conflict, if Fury were to emphatically beat him then its very negative for the masses back in the Motherland.

My first thoughts were, complete pony, but when you think about the crazy world we all inhabit it might just be true 😂
Were you talking to Matt Le Tissier?
 




Garyoldfan

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Those 24 rounds of punishment against Usyk have had a long term impact on AJ’s career.

He will never be the fighter he was, Wilder knocks him out in 4 rounds, and as for fighting Fury, there’s more chance of taking on Billy than Tyson.

‘But he never fought Fury’ is a better legacy than former remembered for being destroyed, he and his people simply won’t risk it.
Wilder has fought 30 seconds in the last 2 years and was beaten (basically) 3 times in a row before that . It’s not the greatest cv. I’d give AJ every chance.
 




crodonilson

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The peoples champion back in action on 8th March back in his beloved Saudi, against Franny Ngannou, should be an absolute cracker.

Ngannou caused Fury all sorts of problems and in most peoples eyes beat him fair and square. I expect AJ to have no such problems and a win will set him up for winning the heavyweight title of the world.
 


Lenny Rider

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The peoples champion back in action on 8th March back in his beloved Saudi, against Franny Ngannou, should be an absolute cracker.

Ngannou caused Fury all sorts of problems and in most peoples eyes beat him fair and square. I expect AJ to have no such problems and a win will set him up for winning the heavyweight title of the world.
The ‘semi final’ with the winner getting a shot at the ‘Undisputed’ heavyweight championship against the winner of Fury vs Usyk.

And that’s perhaps where it gets complicated.

The ideal scenario is if both Fury and AJ win, which is what the Saudi’s will be on their respective prayer mats for.

But what if Usyk and AJ both come through?

Usyk vs AJ 3? Don’t we know the result already?

Or, what if Ngannou gets lucky, like Andy Ruiz did, and knocks AJ out, and Fury wins.


Fury vs Ngannou 2, a undisputed heavyweight title shot in only his 3rd professional fight 🤷‍♂️
 




crodonilson

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The ‘semi final’ with the winner getting a shot at the ‘Undisputed’ heavyweight championship against the winner of Fury vs Usyk.

And that’s perhaps where it gets complicated.

The ideal scenario is if both Fury and AJ win, which is what the Saudi’s will be on their respective prayer mats for.

But what if Usyk and AJ both come through?

Usyk vs AJ 3? Don’t we know the result already?

Or, what if Ngannou gets lucky, like Andy Ruiz did, and knocks AJ out, and Fury wins.


Fury vs Ngannou 2, a undisputed heavyweight title shot in only his 3rd professional fight 🤷‍♂️
AJ v Usyk for me is the most likely scenario but it looks to me like AJ has his mojo back and fighting Usyk back on 'home' turf in Saudi can work to AJ's advantage. I think with fresh impetus and learning from the first two fights AJ can do the business and record a famous and historic victory and prove once and for all why he's the peoples champion.
 


Lenny Rider

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AJ v Usyk for me is the most likely scenario but it looks to me like AJ has his mojo back and fighting Usyk back on 'home' turf in Saudi can work to AJ's advantage. I think with fresh impetus and learning from the first two fights AJ can do the business and record a famous and historic victory and prove once and for all why he's the peoples champion.
You think Fury won’t win?
 






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You think Fury won’t win?
I think the past couple of events in Saudi have shone an interesting light on the heavyweight division; Fury's resume doesnt look that much these days. I also feel he has not done himself any favours with seemingly dodging fights. It will be an interesting fight for sure, but I will not be surprised if Usyk wins.
 
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crodonilson

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I think the past couple of events in Saudi have shone an interesting light on the heavyweight division; Fury's resume doesnt look that much these days. I also feel he has not done himself any favours with seemingly dodging fights. It will be an interesting fight for sure, but I will not be surprised if Usyk wins.

Usyk wins for me, I think he will outbox Fury and win on points. I also think AJ will have too much for Ngannou particularly on home turf, he is a thinking boxer and he will have unpicked his fight with Fury and will know what he needs to do to win.
 


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Usyk wins for me, I think he will outbox Fury and win on points. I also think AJ will have too much for Ngannou particularly on home turf, he is a thinking boxer and he will have unpicked his fight with Fury and will know what he needs to do to win.
I'd like Usyk to win. I like him as a person and the Ukranians need someone like him to cheer for.
 




Lenny Rider

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Usyk will have to knock him out, going on the judging I saw in Fury's last fight
Apparently Ngannou's camp were told on the Thursday before that unless there was a flash knockdown, probably after a count of 30, he was always going to lose on points, but his $20million cheque clearly softened the blow.
 


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Usyk wins for me, I think he will outbox Fury and win on points. I also think AJ will have too much for Ngannou particularly on home turf, he is a thinking boxer and he will have unpicked his fight with Fury and will know what he needs to do to win.

Usyk will have to knock him out, going on the judging I saw in Fury's last fight

I also think it will go to points. If Wilder couldn't knock Fury out, I don't think Usyk will.

They're the two best technical boxers, and I think it will be very close. I wouldn't be surprised if either won. But that's totally sitting on the fence, so if i have to pick one I will go with Fury to edge it.
 


crodonilson

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AJ v Ngannou Friday night should be an absolute cracker. Closer it gets to fight night the more nervous I get for AJ, he should have enough and has all the quality to win but Ngannou is an extremely dangerous opponent. Back in his beloved Saudi let's hope the people's champion has enough and can set up a unification bout next up.
 




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see if you can find the footage of Nikita Tzyu vs Brubaker Tzyu is going places , he's a beast.
I suspect suspect syntax, there, old fruit.
 


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AJ v Ngannou Friday night should be an absolute cracker. Closer it gets to fight night the more nervous I get for AJ, he should have enough and has all the quality to win but Ngannou is an extremely dangerous opponent. Back in his beloved Saudi let's hope the people's champion has enough and can set up a unification bout next up.
Perfectly judged comment, Crodo :bowdown:

Joshua's next opponent?

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That's the way to do it!
 




METALMICKY

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AJ v Ngannou Friday night should be an absolute cracker. Closer it gets to fight night the more nervous I get for AJ, he should have enough and has all the quality to win but Ngannou is an extremely dangerous opponent. Back in his beloved Saudi let's hope the people's champion has enough and can set up a unification bout next up.
Absolute cracker? It's a huge risky pantomime for Joshua? Francis is a totally inexperienced boxer who just happens to have a powerful punch. The Fury fight flattered him terribly and was all about the dumb traveller failing to take it seriously. Striking in MMA is a world apart from striking in a boxing ring.

Francis has one chance to win and that is a punchers chance early on where he could catch Joshua off guard. After that Joshua should have way too much in the way of boxing skills to be troubled.

The bigger question is why on earth Joshua has taken this fight? He'll get no real credit as he should win easily against someone only in their second pro boxing fight. Yet if he loses he'll be a laughing stock and his next appearance is more likely to be on Strictly Come Dancing than in a ring with Fury.
 




Nobby Cybergoat

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The bigger question is why on earth Joshua has taken this fight? He'll get no real credit as he should win easily against someone only in their second pro boxing fight. Yet if he loses he'll be a laughing stock and his next appearance is more likely to be on Strictly Come Dancing than in a ring with Fury.
I think he's taken it because he knows he'll win and knows he'll get paid big money.

Nobody at the top of this division wants to countenance entering into a fight which they may lose.
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Absolute cracker? It's a huge risky pantomime for Joshua? Francis is a totally inexperienced boxer who just happens to have a powerful punch. The Fury fight flattered him terribly and was all about the dumb traveller failing to take it seriously. Striking in MMA is a world apart from striking in a boxing ring.

Francis has one chance to win and that is a punchers chance early on where he could catch Joshua off guard. After that Joshua should have way too much in the way of boxing skills to be troubled.

The bigger question is why on earth Joshua has taken this fight? He'll get no real credit as he should win easily against someone only in their second pro boxing fight. Yet if he loses he'll be a laughing stock and his next appearance is more likely to be on Strictly Come Dancing than in a ring with Fury.
If AJ goes in with the same attitude as when he lost to Ruiz then he could be in trouble. As you say it's a ridiculous fight for Joshua to take, absolutely no upside for him, apart from the money he'll be paid, it proves nothing and doesn't do anything to prepare him for future fights either. Lose and its career over as a serious heavyweight contender.

I've put a few quid on Ngannou because you never know.
 


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