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[Other Sport] Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Usyk 2



Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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Never thought AJ was capable of stepping up against any of the elite heavyweights and proven right again. Have a touch of sympathy for his outburst last night as I think there’s been a lot going on behind the scene, knows he’s been rinsed by Eddie / Matchroom over the years and perhaps been built up beyond his ability.

But why none of his big entourage took him away or turned the microphone off is ridiculous. And the dropping of the belts out the ring thing was a terrible, terrible look.

Strictly 2023 or I’m A Celeb later this year beckons I think
 




TugWilson

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Dec 8, 2020
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I don't know whether it's too nice or too much thinking / tactics. He hurt Usyk a couple of times, but each time he seems to back off to assess the damage, you can see him thinking about it, defend a bit, see if the other fighter has slowed. He gave Usyk a chance to either make the bell or recover his composure a bit.

Usyk of course boxed clever, he wasn't going to look for the huge blow, he scored and he scored often throughout the fight, constantly kept himself on the judges cards, kept Joshua worried that make a mistake and he'd get hit. If Joshua's tactic was to look to stop Usyk, I couldn't really understand why he didn't go all out with the risk that entails when he had him in trouble - he boxed like he was ahead on points and didn't need the stoppage.

Very good assessment imho,youv`e read the whole fight as i saw it .
 


DJ NOBO

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Jul 18, 2004
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Dr Bandler

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Fury v Usyk would be huge

I think Fury talks about retiring because he knows Usyk would beat him. Fury's greatest asset is his heart and sheer will to win but Usyk will match him and then some

I don't think that is an accurate assessment of Fury. He has always had good movement and boxing skills for a heavyweight and now Steward has taught him to punch with power he is quite some package if he is in the right shape.
 


Sirnormangall

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Sep 21, 2017
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I don't know whether it's too nice or too much thinking / tactics. He hurt Usyk a couple of times, but each time he seems to back off to assess the damage, you can see him thinking about it, defend a bit, see if the other fighter has slowed. He gave Usyk a chance to either make the bell or recover his composure a bit.

Usyk of course boxed clever, he wasn't going to look for the huge blow, he scored and he scored often throughout the fight, constantly kept himself on the judges cards, kept Joshua worried that make a mistake and he'd get hit. If Joshua's tactic was to look to stop Usyk, I couldn't really understand why he didn't go all out with the risk that entails when he had him in trouble - he boxed like he was ahead on points and didn't need the stoppage.

I agree with all that and I can’t understand why it was a split decision.
 




Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
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I don't think that is an accurate assessment of Fury. He has always had good movement and boxing skills for a heavyweight and now Steward has taught him to punch with power he is quite some package if he is in the right shape.

I actually think if Usyk was to beat Fury fair and square, Fury would be very gracious in defeat.

That said I think he would stop Usyk late on.
 


Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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Joshua was an absolutely embarrassment in the aftermath of that. Usually comes across well, but he's made a complete knob of himself there with his petulant strop out of the ring, throwing the belts out, getting in Usyk's face, then spouting a load of cringeworthy old waffle in what should have been Usyk's moment to savour.

Maybe he was punch-drunk, but one of his team should've been at least trying to stop him making a gargantuan prick of himself there, after what was a courageous display.
 


Mr Banana

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Aug 8, 2005
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Not massively keen on footballers having cameras thrust in their faces while they're emotional — definitely shouldn't be allowed in boxing. Joshua, to me, acted like someone who'd been whacked around the head for 20 minutes and then found out he'd lost the biggest fight of his career when he'd been under intense pressure, given it everything and been told he was winning by his corner.

Wouldn't hurt to let him talk about it in the morning. Although I'm being slightly hypocritical here as my colleagues would have had access to his dressing room if he'd won.

The idea that Joshua isn't elite because he failed to beat the ostensible pound-for-pound number one is also daft. Usyk would have knocked out most fighters last night.
 




dangull

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Feb 24, 2013
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Joshua said afterwards that he was also fighting for GB and the huge fight with Fury that everybody wanted.

You have to accept when you have been beaten fair and square though, and most people thought so too despite the split decision.
 


METALMICKY

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Jan 30, 2004
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And here's the true hero of UK combat sports this weekend. Stunning under dog win by Leon Edwards to become UFC welterweight champion. Sadly he wont get the recognition he deserves. If you know your MMA this is incredible!
 


rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
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Fury v Usyk would be huge

I think Fury talks about retiring because he knows Usyk would beat him. Fury's greatest asset is his heart and sheer will to win but Usyk will match him and then some

Fury ran and hid from Usyk when he had the opportunity to fight him before. I've no doubt that he would do so again.

I have always been an AJ fan since 2012 but he has twice come up against the best pound for pound fighter and a real hard ******* at that. Twice he has been well beaten. Absolutely no excuse for that disrespectful petulent behaviour on Saturday night. He was well beaten by a better fighter. Suck it up. From being a huge fan to hoping he never sets foot in the ring again. Shameful.
 




Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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The pressure he's bottled for years and years finally told on him.

I hope he takes some time away. He'll never be a champion again, but still capable of delivering maybe 2 or 3 great nights for British boxing, hopefully in the UK
 


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