Another bunch of public sector employess on strike.....

[wellquickwoody]

Because your Government......................................... your bullying Government

You mean the democratically elected UK government? Not exclusively mine as far as I am aware...............

 

[BLOCK F]

Because your Government is not waging a permanent war against the private sector, whereas teachers and junior doctors (among others) are constantly being picked on by your bullying Government, which then cheered-on by most of the tabloids (themselves by obnoxious multi-millionaire Tory business tycoons).

Because since Thatcher's premiership, the Tories have thrived on confrontation, rather than consensus; Ministerial diktat rather than meaningful dialogue; coercion rather than co-operation; punishment rather than partnership; promoting divide-and-rule between different sections of our society, with public sector vs private sector being one obvious example (along with skivers versus strivers, shirkers versus workers, etc).

Oh dear, 'Nobody likes us in the public sector, think we might as well go and eat worms'.
Poor old public sector workers, so hard done by, I don't know how they cope with such a nasty Tory Government!

 

[Albumen]

Another bunch of public sector employess on strike.....

Bunch of . . .

Mmmm where have I heard this before. Ah yes, Cameron-Tory-Scum-Speak.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Bunch of . . .

Mmmm where have I heard this before. Ah yes, Cameron-Tory-Scum-Speak.

What term shall I use? Pride? Gaggle? Majestic herd? School?

Talk about having a chip on your shoulder!

 

[Albumen]

Talk about having a chip on your shoulder!

I think you already have done.

 

[GT49er]

Another bunch of public sector employess on strike.....

Quelle surprise!

Why is it you do not hear about private sector strikes very often?

Hmmmm........................ it appears that the responses haven't exactly turned out as you hoped/expected!

 

[BLOCK F]

What term shall I use? Pride? Gaggle? Majestic herd? School?

Talk about having a chip on your shoulder!

Possibly a 'Whinge' of public sector workers.

I must state here, though, that my bin-men are fantastic., so no whinge for them.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Because your Government is not waging a permanent war against the private sector, whereas teachers and junior doctors (among others) are constantly being picked on by your bullying Government, which then cheered-on by most of the tabloids (themselves by obnoxious multi-millionaire Tory business tycoons).

Because since Thatcher's premiership, the Tories have thrived on confrontation, rather than consensus; Ministerial diktat rather than meaningful dialogue; coercion rather than co-operation; punishment rather than partnership; promoting divide-and-rule between different sections of our society, with public sector vs private sector being one obvious example (along with skivers versus strivers, shirkers versus workers, etc).

As the husband of someone who is in Senior management in Further Education, the father of two daughters, one of whom works in local government while the other is a junior doctor, and their partners are a Customs Officer and a chemistry teacher, all of whom are very, very good at their jobs and work enormously hard, I second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth that.

 

[jimhigham]

Oh dear, 'Nobody likes us in the public sector, think we might as well go and eat worms'.
Poor old public sector workers, so hard done by, I don't know how they cope with such a nasty Tory Government!

Here goes. I am a public sector worker. Since the Conservatives came into power/coalition I have had a pay freeze, which means this is now into its sixth year. Run alongside that the government has indulged in corporate bullying to try and remove the terms and conditions that I signed up to in 1992. I am holding the line for now but I don't know how much longer I shall be able to do so. Other payments have also been culled in that time.

My pension has also been amended and it is not in my favour. I am prepared to take the hit for that, as I acknowledge that I was on a very good pension scheme in the first instance and my current option, while inferior, is still better than most.

I have had the option to strike several times in that period. I have never done so. The reason for this is that the government has an effective strategy in place for ensuring that any strike in my department is ineffective and will go unnoticed. The government is also adept at painting public sector workers as grasping and protectionist so I would have little in the way of public sympathy. As such, it's not worth my losing pay for a strike that would have no effect.

But here's the thing. A quick look at my P60s over the years shows that I am now 20% down on where I was in 2010. That's 20%! Is it really so unreasonable for public sector workers to seek redress against that kind of pay reduction? When I joined I was under the impression that the deal was that I would never be rich but that the pension would ultimately offset lost earnings over the course of my career. Basic security if you will. Now we are basically being asked to be poor but with precious little benefit at the end of a career of public service. I am under no illusion. My employer would sooner force me out, regardless of my acquired experience, simply because I am older and therefore more expensive. They would sooner bring in inexperienced staff on wretched new contracts.

Solidarity brothers!

 

[Braggfan]

Because your Government is not waging a permanent war against the private sector, whereas teachers and junior doctors (among others) are constantly being picked on by your bullying Government, which then cheered-on by most of the tabloids (themselves by obnoxious multi-millionaire Tory business tycoons).

Because since Thatcher's premiership, the Tories have thrived on confrontation, rather than consensus; Ministerial diktat rather than meaningful dialogue; coercion rather than co-operation; punishment rather than partnership; promoting divide-and-rule between different sections of our society, with public sector vs private sector being one obvious example (along with skivers versus strivers, shirkers versus workers, etc).

No disrespect to anyone else but this is the best post I’ve read on NSC in ages. Kudos to you.

 

[darkwolf666]

Because there are considerably less union members in the private sector these days due to the erosion of union power by legislation.

This, very well put!

 

[Gwylan]

Because your Government is not waging a permanent war against the private sector, whereas teachers and junior doctors (among others) are constantly being picked on by your bullying Government, which then cheered-on by most of the tabloids (themselves by obnoxious multi-millionaire Tory business tycoons).

Because since Thatcher's premiership, the Tories have thrived on confrontation, rather than consensus; Ministerial diktat rather than meaningful dialogue; coercion rather than co-operation; punishment rather than partnership; promoting divide-and-rule between different sections of our society, with public sector vs private sector being one obvious example (along with skivers versus strivers, shirkers versus workers, etc).

Great post.

 

[Peteinblack]

Oh dear, 'Nobody likes us in the public sector, think we might as well go and eat worms'.
Poor old public sector workers, so hard done by, I don't know how they cope with such a nasty Tory Government!

Thank you for proving my point about the goady, contemptuous, provocative, gratuitously offensive Tory attitude towards the public sector, you sweet-talking charmer

 

[Gullflyinghigh]

Hmmmm........................ it appears that the responses haven't exactly turned out as you hoped/expected!

Or maybe they have. Political baiting seems to be something of an NSC sport now, it's all very confusing.

Burn the right/left/commies/fascists(delete as appropriate)!

 

[Frampler]

Well, of course it won't happen - although I'd love the last bit to come to pass! No reason for workers' rights to be further reduced - that's largely a threat to persuade us to vote 'In'.

Nonsense. The current Government is full of people who think that the best way to create economic growth is to reduce employment regulation (they never call it workers rights). In the absence of the EU, a Conservative Government would be likely to implement the Beecroft report, and would likely introduce a cap on compensation for discrimination.

 

[GT49er]

Or maybe they have. Political baiting seems to be something of an NSC sport now, it's all very confusing.

Burn the right/left/commies/fascists(delete as appropriate)!

I think you're over-estimating the OP, to be honest!

 

[GT49er]

Nonsense. The current Government is full of people who think that the best way to create economic growth is to reduce employment regulation (they never call it workers rights). In the absence of the EU, a Conservative Government would be likely to implement the Beecroft report, and would likely introduce a cap on compensation for discrimination.

The current government will be hugely discredited and badly damaged if they lose the Brexit vote. They might not find it as easy to ride rough-shod over the electorate as they hope; indeed they might not even survive (although that last point is probably a bit too much to hope for).

 

[BLOCK F]

Thank you for proving my point about the goady, contemptuous, provocative, gratuitously offensive Tory attitude towards the public sector, you sweet-talking charmer

Oh Pete, don't be so pathetic; my family is full of public sector workers, some of whom have retired.
We all seem to get on ok and long may it continue.
I don't always agree with their points of view and likewise they with mine.
Ho-hum, that is life,but then again, they don't generally consider me to have a gratuitously offensive Tory attitude and I don't consider them to be constant whingers...........just some of the time!

 

[BLOCK F]

The current government will be hugely discredited and badly damaged if they lose the Brexit vote. They might not find it as easy to ride rough-shod over the electorate as they hope; indeed they might not even survive (although that last point is probably a bit too much to hope for).

Yes, bring it on, we'd all be far better off with a Government run by Corbyn, Mcdonnell,Abbott and co. wouldn't we?

 

[GT49er]

Yes, bring it on, we'd all be far better off with a Government run by Corbyn, Mcdonnell,Abbott and co. wouldn't we?

Sorry, got it wrong - if the government lose the Brexit vote they will be covered in glory and rule forever!