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Ann DeVecchi - Planning Application



Acker79

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Why would she get lawyers involved?

So she can push her application through with ease. Lawyers may not have a role in the process, but can be quite convincing if they're good enough. The mere idea that someone might possibly sue the counccil should a child fall off a swing has led to closures of public parks.

If she shows up with a lawyer explaining how he could quite easily make a case against the council causing his client distress and hardship or whatever by giving weight to complaints that are undeniably simply a part of a vindictive campaign, I don't see them growing risking it, especially against "one of their own"
 




The Large One

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So she can push her application through with ease. Lawyers may not have a role in the process, but can be quite convincing if they're good enough. The mere idea that someone might possibly sue the counccil should a child fall off a swing has led to closures of public parks.

If she shows up with a lawyer explaining how he could quite easily make a case against the council causing his client distress and hardship or whatever by giving weight to complaints that are undeniably simply a part of a vindictive campaign, I don't see them growing risking it, especially against "one of their own"

So let me get this straight. You reckon that it's possible de Vecchi would turn up at the next planning meeting (in her capacity as an applicant) with her lawyer, effectively saying 'grant this application or I will sue the council for distress and anxiety...'

I know this is Lewes District Council we're talking about here, and they're about to lose their planning powers, but that's a bit far-fetched (in fact, it's a lot far-fetched), even for them.
 


Nibble

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I don't know. If it can be proved the objections come from malicious feelings and have nothing to do with her actual planning application I'm not sure they would be counted. However, if you're goal is just to disrupt her then it could do the job. She has proven herself to be a very beligerent individual in the past.
 


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So she can push her application through with ease. Lawyers may not have a role in the process, but can be quite convincing if they're good enough. The mere idea that someone might possibly sue the counccil should a child fall off a swing has led to closures of public parks.

If she shows up with a lawyer explaining how he could quite easily make a case against the council causing his client distress and hardship or whatever by giving weight to complaints that are undeniably simply a part of a vindictive campaign, I don't see them growing risking it, especially against "one of their own"


Sorry, but the Application will be dealt with purely on planning grounds, and the number of objections will be mentioned.

After all, many of those objections may well have come from other parties (ie non - Albion fans) who will have objected anyway.

It will be up to the Council Planning Officers to either approve (or not)the application, and the Councillors will probably simply rubber stamp the Officer's decision.
 


Nibble

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Yes, it will be based on planning grounds, therefore there is a big chance that all the objections not based on planning grounds will be rejected. If indeed they can tell which are genuine and which are malicious.

I can't see many other people objecting and she will probably just get her permission farely quickly. But as mentioned this may give her some hassle.
 




Mendoza

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I can't see many other people objecting and she will probably just get her permission farely quickly. But as mentioned this may give her some hassle.

I think its only the hassle that people (of NSC) are after. I dont, or think anyone actually cares if the solar panels get installed. Its just something to do for teh lolz and inconvinience her for no reason, much like she did to us
 


Yes, it will be based on planning grounds, therefore there is a big chance that all the objections not based on planning grounds will be rejected. If indeed they can tell which are genuine and which are malicious.

I can't see many other people objecting and she will probably just get her permission farely quickly. But as mentioned this may give her some hassle.

Eh? All objections not based on planning grounds will be rejected anyway, for any application. You can ONLY object on planning grounds.
 


Brovion

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I think its only the hassle that people (of NSC) are after. I dont, or think anyone actually cares if the solar panels get installed. Its just something to do for teh lolz and inconvinience her for no reason, much like she did to us
Indeed. I don't give a monkey's one way or the other if she installs solar panels or solar flares and I don't suppose at the end of the day our objections will make one iota of difference. However that's not the point, if these objections mean there is an element of inconvienence to her, no matter how small or insiginficant, then it will have been worth it. Hell it's been fun just discussing it.

And no I can't forgive, forget or 'move on'.


PS - Didn't we do a similar thing when Cutrtess wanted to build a porch on her house at Falmer? There was a particularly good objection from Easy 10 as I remember.
 






So she can push her application through with ease. Lawyers may not have a role in the process, but can be quite convincing if they're good enough. The mere idea that someone might possibly sue the counccil should a child fall off a swing has led to closures of public parks.

If she shows up with a lawyer explaining how he could quite easily make a case against the council causing his client distress and hardship or whatever by giving weight to complaints that are undeniably simply a part of a vindictive campaign, I don't see them growing risking it, especially against "one of their own"
She won't show up at the planning committee with a lawyer. In fact, she won't show up at all. As a councillor, she would have to declare an interest in the application before the committee and, if she was there, she would have to withdraw from the room while it was being discussed. She would then be notified of the decision.
 


portlock seagull

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The Rt.Hon Lord B, we've all had a chuckle at this and you've got a solid grasp of planning laws. In all seriousness, is it worth pursuing this i.e objecting to her planning application? I'd like to, just because it would be annoying for her, and if there's any realistic chance of causing her the same stress and expense she gave me. But I how do I do that living in Berkshire? I mean, she's just a small provincial councillor of no national importance. Will objecting actually do anything? And what advice, unofficial obviously, would you give someone like me? I hear a pint of Harvey's is your usual hourly rate?
 




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The Rt.Hon Lord B, we've all had a chuckle at this and you've got a solid grasp of planning laws. In all seriousness, is it worth pursuing this i.e objecting to her planning application? I'd like to, just because it would be annoying for her, and if there's any realistic chance of causing her the same stress and expense she gave me. But I how do I do that living in Berkshire? I mean, she's just a small provincial councillor of no national importance. Will objecting actually do anything? And what advice, unofficial obviously, would you give someone like me? I hear a pint of Harvey's is your usual hourly rate?

It does ask if you live in or out of the local area, I am sure Lord B posted a similar example of solar panels being rejected. Others have said every comment has to be considered. I wonder how many have been posted, is there a way of checking.

PublicAccess @ Lewes District Council: Application Details (LW/09/1200)
 




Acker79

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She won't show up at the planning committee with a lawyer. In fact, she won't show up at all. As a councillor, she would have to declare an interest in the application before the committee and, if she was there, she would have to withdraw from the room while it was being discussed. She would then be notified of the decision.

Would she have to show up? A simple passing in the corridor,

-oh hi, this is my lawyer
-You're not thinking of giving credence to any of those complaints are you? It's all a vindictive, petty, silly little plot from those oafs in brighton. I know you have your process, but I can easily get any no votes turned over in court, and I really don't want to re-arrange my diary for it, my afternoons are all booked. Haha.
-Well, you know we have to follow process, nudge nudge wink wink.

And the mere hint of a threat and they fold for fear of a legal battle that would likely go against them (since they'd have a case for the vindictive nature of the complaints). I get that they're not supposed to consider the motivation behind the complaint, but somewhere along the line, be it the initial application or a challenge in european court, it will be considered, so they wouldn't be too scared of considering at the application if they are under the impression it could go that far.

Or am I misjudging how close/politically important she is to the council?
 
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The Large One

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Would she have to show up? A simple passing in the corridor,

-oh hi, this is my lawyer
-You're not thinking of giving credence to any of those complaints are you? It's all a vindictive, petty, silly little plot from those oafs in brighton. I know you have your process, but I can easily get any no votes turned over in court, and I really don't want to re-arrange my diary for it, my afternoons are all booked. Haha.
-Well, you know we have to follow process, nudge nudge wink wink.

And the mere hint of a threat and they fold for fear of a legal battle that would likely go against them (since they'd have a case for the vindictive nature of the complaints). I get that they're not supposed to consider the motivation behind the complaint, but somewhere along the line, be it the initial application or a challenge in european court, it will be considered, so they wouldn't be too scared of considering at the application if they are under the impression it could go that far.

Or am I misjudging how close/politically important she is to the council?

I think you're mis-judging how the planning process works.

Either that or you've been reading too much Michael Dobbs.
 




Brovion

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How many times has Anal De Vile Cheeks looked at this thread so far d'ya reckon?
Oh she wouldn't do it herself - far too common. She has MINIONS to do it for her. And the current length and tone of posts in this thread, plus the fact we only seem to have one quisling in our ranks, should let them know that she is still universally loathed and despised by 99% of Albion fans. Not only that but we'll also take any opportunity, no matter how small, to make our feelings known.
 


Big Jim

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she is still universally loathed and despised by 99% of Albion fans. Not only that but we'll also take any opportunity, no matter how small, to make our feelings known.

99% of Albion fans is a lot. Withdean and current "supporters" doesn't show up the true following of this team. Remember how many people came out of the woodwork for the play off finals? Yet alone the ones who didn't. There must be a couple of hundred thousand people who follow the albion and a significant majority (imo) would dislike her (for her actions against the club) to some extent. Imagine how that must feel? To be disliked by so many people. You'd think a dark cloud would follow over you with all the bad feelings.
 








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