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Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Struggling to see where the "shit stirring" is to be honest.
Has he said anything inaccurate over Hammondgate ?
Has he said anything inaccurate over Hammondgate ?
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Andy Naylor the Argus reporter.
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Scotty Mac
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- Jul 13, 2003
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im not sure how he shit stirs to be honest when all he does is find a story and breaks them to the fans - especially on issues the club would more than likely try and sweep under the carpet
does a bloody good job in my opinion
does a bloody good job in my opinion
Scotty Mac
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- Jul 13, 2003
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exactly - he uncovers stories and issues the fans otherwise wouldn't know about, and puts them into the public domain. just seems to me that because he doesnt toe the club line, he is deemed to be shit stirring
Lord Bracknell
On fire
What troubles people about Naylor is that he associates with REAL shit stirrers, like some of the players' agents. It's always interesting stuff, but it's often not presenting a fair view of the Club.
Seagullible
Super Keeper
sht stirrer - can't stand him
He seems to have a real issue with DK and will undermine the clubs stability at the first possible chance
He seems to have a real issue with DK and will undermine the clubs stability at the first possible chance
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Mendoza
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He could be a good journalist if he did put his personal feelings as the ACTUAL truth.
Why does he STILL have to put McGhee's name in every article, and why make it so obvious he doesnt like Dick Knight - i.e. blaming Knight for Hammonds red card at Oldham
Yes it sells papers, but it winds the fans up, and could contribute to the low attendances
Why does he STILL have to put McGhee's name in every article, and why make it so obvious he doesnt like Dick Knight - i.e. blaming Knight for Hammonds red card at Oldham
Yes it sells papers, but it winds the fans up, and could contribute to the low attendances
If I were a journo i too would be in the company of all sorts too! Crikey thats good work by him imo.
The Clown of Pevensey Bay
Well-known member
And that's why he's been the Albion reporter at the Argus since the early 1990s, then, is it?
Storer68
New member
He presents opinions as facts
take for example todays' "... Hammond is currently serving a three-match ban which does not end until after the home game against Crewe on February 2 so he will almost certainly never play for the club again.
No quote from the club, the payer or even the agent.
And it doesn't sell papers. The Argus's sales figures have been falling for years as seen below rom "Hold The FrontPage" on 3 March 2006.
The Argus in Brighton has continued its slide, falling 8.3 per cent year-on-year. The newspaper has just launched its ‘Lite’ edition to bring the brand to more readers, concentrating on commuters. A change of edition structure from timed to geographic editions was made in August. Its circulation is now 35,195. There was a redesign at the start of 2004.
take for example todays' "... Hammond is currently serving a three-match ban which does not end until after the home game against Crewe on February 2 so he will almost certainly never play for the club again.
No quote from the club, the payer or even the agent.
And it doesn't sell papers. The Argus's sales figures have been falling for years as seen below rom "Hold The FrontPage" on 3 March 2006.
The Argus in Brighton has continued its slide, falling 8.3 per cent year-on-year. The newspaper has just launched its ‘Lite’ edition to bring the brand to more readers, concentrating on commuters. A change of edition structure from timed to geographic editions was made in August. Its circulation is now 35,195. There was a redesign at the start of 2004.
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countrygull
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The club needs scrutinising. He scrutinises. It's his job. He'll listen to every source that comes to him. It's his job. He doesn't have to write nice things about the club. That's not his job. That's what the website is for. He is doing a reasonable job.
SW17
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To be Honest, if he was any good at his job, then surely he would be on a national newspaper by now, he's been doing this job for a good decade now and it would make sense to move up the ladder if he was good at it. Being a total cock doesn't help his cause though
The Large One
Who's Next?
My take on it is the it's not that he's not telling the truth - largely he is.
It's just he doesn't tell the WHOLE truth.
Similarly, in this instance, I don't suppose Dean Hammond was too enamoured with having his contract story covered in the paper, I know the club certainly weren't. But what Naylor has done - via Hammond's agent - is to go public with the story, which serves little purpose apart from bringing into focus who people might choose who is the hero and who is the villain in this story - a scenario which isn't really necessary.
Meanwhile, Hammond, who is clearly at a crossroads as to what to do next in his career, has had the spotlight put on him to make his mind up. I suspect he would have preferred to make his mind up without that spotlight being placed on him.
It's just he doesn't tell the WHOLE truth.
Similarly, in this instance, I don't suppose Dean Hammond was too enamoured with having his contract story covered in the paper, I know the club certainly weren't. But what Naylor has done - via Hammond's agent - is to go public with the story, which serves little purpose apart from bringing into focus who people might choose who is the hero and who is the villain in this story - a scenario which isn't really necessary.
Meanwhile, Hammond, who is clearly at a crossroads as to what to do next in his career, has had the spotlight put on him to make his mind up. I suspect he would have preferred to make his mind up without that spotlight being placed on him.
bullshit detector
Back in the garage
- Nov 18, 2003
- 194
for christ's sake change the record, you whining nerd. The vast majority of fans (who don't come on this moanfest) support DK.
The Clown of Pevensey Bay
Well-known member
He's interpreting the facts for the purpose of analysis. And think about it -- he's probably right, isn't he?
The Argus would sell far fewer without football stories in. The top two pages in local papers are, in order, deaths, and the back page.
The paper is lucky to have him, I reckon. The sports reporters on many local papers are inexperienced, greasy-haired, cheap-suited 22 year olds who earn about £14k.
Brighton Breezy
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Whether Hammond is happy or not with it being public is an issue he should take up with his agent and it is not Naylor's job to keep the club happy.
He does a good job and in the instance of Dean Hammond's contract he has written a story about a subject which is important to most Brighton fans. Isn't that his job?
He has no loyalty to the club or the players - he just writes about them. This is no different to the way the reporters on the argus newsdesk will write stories both positive and negative about Brighton City Council.