Andy Naylor at it again

[Moshe Gariani]

And it is amazing how quickly the Palace rivalry took off. I went to Selhurst Park for the Palace v Brighton fixture in the 75/76 season. It was a midweek game, quite early (it might even have been our first one). Brighton won 1-0 and when we scored whilst it’s an exaggeration to say you could hear a pin drop there were only a relative handful of Brighton fans there. I was sitting with in with the Palace fans (with my Palace-supporting Dad), cheering for Brighton and no one batted an eyelid. And after the game there were no road closures and no huge police presence to keep the vast hordes of passionate rival fans apart. Neither club gave a toss, it was just a bog-standard local-ish match. Fast-forward to the corresponding fixture the following season and the difference was incredible.

Interesting anecdote. Hard to imagine at first but makes sense. I'm glad it changed..!

 

[daveinprague]

I remember a match, possibly 76/77 match, where for a few weeks, all you heard was 'Palace end no scarves'. Was a whole heap of Brighton in the home end who didnt make themselves known until the team came out. A lot of Palace just ran onto the pitch when they made themselves known

 

[heathgate]

I thought it had something to do with a strike and Southamton dockers went back to work, and the anomosity grew between the towns.

It did... that was the start of it.

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[portslade seagull]

I remember a match, possibly 76/77 match, where for a few weeks, all you heard was 'Palace end no scarves'. Was a whole heap of Brighton in the home end who didnt make themselves known until the team came out. A lot of Palace just ran onto the pitch when they made themselves known

Remember that. Was young then thou

 

[hans kraay fan club]

It did... that was the start of it.

It didn't. At least none of the scores of Saints and Pompey mates I've garnered over the two decades living here, accept it as having any truth.

Portsmouth supporters, and occasionally those of other clubs, refer to Southampton supporters as "scum" or "scummers". According to some Portsmouth fans, the term "scum" developed out of an acronym standing for Southampton City (or Corporation) Union Men, with the term allegedly originating from when Southampton dockyard workers supposedly crossed the picket lines in the 1930s when Portsmouth dockyard workers were on strike. However this story is unlikely, as the two cities rely on entirely different types of ports — Southampton being a merchant port and Portsmouth, a naval one. There is also no known record of any strike occurring during the mentioned time period. Rather, this seems to be a modern attempt to incorrectly describe the origins of the rivalry

 

[chaileyjem]

We've played Palace only 15 times in the last 30 years.

 

[SAC]

The rivalry has become a bit pathetic in the last few years, probably due to the internet. It used to be about the result, on and off the pitch, possibly who sung the loudest and who had the most fans. And who finished highest up the table.

Now it's constant, who has the best badge, best anthem, newest stadium, most working class, most middle class, debt, etc. There are at least two or three threads a week. All a bit needy IMO, perhaps it's an age thing.

 

[Buzzer]

We've played Palace only 15 times in the last 30 years.

I know you get a kick out of posts like that but seriously, what's your point here? Are you trying to downplay the rivalry based on matches played because if so then Southampton have only played Pompey 12 times in the last 30 years and just 38 times in total. Millwall have played West Ham 13 times in the last 30 years and just 26 times in total.

And Brighton have played Palace 33 times in just over 40 years when the rivalry really started and 96 times in total.

 

[Betfair Bozo]

I know you get a kick out of posts like that but seriously, what's your point here? Are you trying to downplay the rivalry based on matches played because if so then Southampton have only played Pompey 12 times in the last 30 years and just 38 times in total. Millwall have played West Ham 13 times in the last 30 years and just 26 times in total.

And Brighton have played Palace 33 times in just over 40 years when the rivalry really started and 96 times in total.

Yeah, I'm struggling to get the point too. What has the last 30 years got to do with an argument about a "manufactured rivalry" that pre-dates that period?

 

[chaileyjem]

I know you get a kick out of posts like that but seriously, what's your point here? Are you trying to downplay the rivalry based on matches played because if so then Southampton have only played Pompey 12 times in the last 30 years and just 38 times in total. Millwall have played West Ham 13 times in the last 30 years and just 26 times in total.

And Brighton have played Palace 33 times in just over 40 years when the rivalry really started and 96 times in total.

I'm as keen on the Palace rivalry as the next man and thoroughly enjoy it. I'm just pointing out, not very clearly i guess, that it continues to thrive even though we don't play them often.

 

[Betfair Bozo]

I'm as keen on the Palace rivalry as the next man and thoroughly enjoy it. I'm just pointing out, not very clearly i guess, that it continues to thrive even though we don't play them often.

Got you. It came across (to me at least) that you were making the opposite point.

 

[severnside gull]

Please explain why palace as the NEAREST league team (I'm not counting Crawley as they are recent) is a nonsensical rivalry?

Over-egging it perhaps? Non-historic largely because we rarely played them (not at all between Jan 63 and August 74) and therefore not within the compass of many of a certain age.

 

[alfredmizen]

It did... that was the start of it.

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it wasnt mate

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Over-egging it perhaps? Non-historic largely because we rarely played them (not at all between Jan 63 and August 74) and therefore not within the compass of many of a certain age. [emoji38]ol:

I got ya!

 

[The Albion Roar]

He supports another team, and can eff off. About time the Evening Anus appointed a local as lead sport writer. Someone like Callum May at the beeb. FFS! And at a MASSIVE salary.

Andy Naylor is a 'local'.

 

[alfredmizen]

Andy Naylor is a 'local'.

And he supports stoke ?

 

[The Albion Roar]

And he supports stoke ?

Yup. Long story - can't remember it.

 

[Betfair Bozo]

Yup. Long story - can't remember it.

I think it was just that he liked Gordon Banks.

 

[The Albion Roar]

I think it was just that he liked Gordon Banks.

Yeah, that or some reference to 1972. (Stoke's only major trophy).

Or something.

He's from Woodingdean.

 

[heathgate]

It didn't. At least none of the scores of Saints and Pompey mates I've garnered over the two decades living here, accept it as having any truth.

It was in the 50s.. and a civvy docker is a docker in either civil or military ports... I have seen it in several aticles I cant recall where.

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