Train guards/drivers luggage handlers.....It may be the season of goodwill to all...but I`m struggling with these people who are fu..ing up commuters and now holiday makers. They haven`t had a pay rise since 2014 FFS, what have they done to deserve a pay rise or is it some god given right. I like you feel lucky to have a job !!!!!
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And yet ANOTHER strike ....
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Train guards/drivers luggage handlers.....It may be the season of goodwill to all...but I`m struggling with these people who are fu..ing up commuters and now holiday makers. They haven`t had a pay rise since 2014 FFS, what have they done to deserve a pay rise or is it some god given right. I like you feel lucky to have a job !!!!!
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Common sense suggests that if you've made other efforts to resolve a dispute and this really is the 'last resort' then you'd highlight those other efforts ..... it would keep the public on side surely ? Problem is that unions are somewhat dinosaur like and have very little brains.
Insel affe
HellBilly
Agreed, people could maybe have sympathy if they had gone to the press months ago and said something along the lines of " look we want to negotiate better conditions or wages whatever and give you two months to sit round the table with us and if nothing can be agreed we WILL be taking action as a LAST resort and these are the days we plan"
Now I see nothing wrong with that, instead it seems they are holding the company to ransom and again the public are the collateral damage and essential no public travelling no income to the companies involved no job. It seems the public are fair game at the moment and the unions are reverting to bully boy tactics from the 70s and 80s.
Unfortunately I'm fully expecting the teachers to start striking soon, that will really feck us all up.
Are you sugesting that union leaders do not have to be "Degree qualified" like plod will have to be very soon.
Superphil
Dismember
I've not had a pay rise since 2008, that's it, I'm going on strike, I refuse to sell anything to anyone, that'll learn 'em.
At the moment i am on the same rate as i was in 2005, i nearly choked on my tea at the poster complaining they had not had a rise since Jan 2015.
perhaps you should employ "Union Man" Strike,screw your customers and employer..you deserve it !!!!!
I was a member of a union about 30 years ago, unless it has improved vastly it was about as much use as a handbrake on a canoe.
Geestar
New member
Ludicrous
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jevs
Well-known member
I'm going on strike. The rock garden won't get mowed for 24 hours. I might picket the north entrance.....or the south.....who knows?
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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So it seems we are pretty much in the same boat ? I have been made redundant twice and told that my services as a self employed locum were not going to be needed due to a change in company policy, I have worked pretty much all my life apart from a couple of weeks in 1978. Currently I am earning approx. 25% less than I was 12 years ago and it was only £21 K then. It seems that many of us are working harder and harder to stand still or go backwards, no £995 leather trousers for me......
I am almost envious of those who are still in a union and reluctantly standing up for their rights, too many of us don't have a voice.
FatSuperman
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- Feb 25, 2016
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I was wondering when people would start mentioning their last pay rises. I can't even remember my last one but it was definitely almost a decade ago (global financial meltdown time). I've moved jobs since but on the same money. Not complaining because I'm paid quite well but so many people I know are in the same boat - no pay rise in 5-20 years, so much worse off than ten years ago. I sympathise that the employers are coining it - aren't they always, but I really don't think striking is the solution! It clearly isn't very effective.
Yet another Union piles in to extend their workers Christmas break, why do they think going back to the 70's wins them any sympathy from the hard working people who are suffering daily threats from these dinosaurs. Get real this is the 21st century with great opportunities for all who are prepared to look forward and move with the times.
The government will have to get involved to deal with these hostage takers. I hope they are given the support to do what is necessary in order that we return back to normality.
The government will have to get involved to deal with these hostage takers. I hope they are given the support to do what is necessary in order that we return back to normality.
BensGrandad
New member
Union leaders have to get their members to strike to justify their high earnings which in most cases are 2 or 3 times that of their members
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Mick Cash of the RMT earns something in the region of £130k ( !!!??!!! ) whilst his members earn in the region of £30k ..... it's hard to work out what he does to earn over FOUR times his members ..... good old socialism eh ?
Captain Sensible
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This is a generic argument and not based on this exact case. Most unions are the employees themselves and they are simply managed under an umbrella of Unite or RMT. The disputes are between the company and its own workforce. When both sides fail to agree, that's when the larger Union umbrella steps in. So all these disputes are started by a problem between the employees and the company bosses, the employees own union representatives are often in charge of dates of strike etc, but the big press stuff is done by the parent union. So to you it looks like Red Len or whoever is instigating this, when in actual fact it's the employees. They need the help and financial clout of the parent union.
There is an increasing trend for big bosses and big businesses to push wages lower and lower whiles profits get higher and bosses pay themselves more. Workers are talking about a 2or3% payrise and bosses are upping their pay by 10times that amount. It's no coincidence that all these strikes are coming to a head now, probably a coordinated effort for maximum impact, I for one agree it's the right thing to do. Everyone always asks what the union has done to resolve matters but its the company that has a duty to pay its staff fairly and allow staff to share in the success of a company. Bosses in this country are greedy and just aren't doing it. Their opinion is that if you don't like it, leave. This small society 'f*ck 'em' attitude is pushing us toward one of the most unequal disparities of wealth in the world.
It's from midnight 23rd so it's actually 24th & 25th. Merry Christmas every one. I know this because I have 3 friends flying out on holiday on the 25th. Or at least they were.
I have moved jobs 3 times in 7 years to get a pay rise. If I hadn't moved I wouldn't have earned more. That is my choice. If I had stayed, would I go on strike for more money? No I would leave if I don't like it.
Time to ban these union strikes who hold the public to ransom..
I'd say the wankers are on both sides of the table, utter wankers in fact!
Captain Sensible
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My wife and I have had a horrific and stressful year with custody issues of my children and as some light relief have booked to take her away just after Xmas and celebrate NYE abroad, if this trip is disrupted I will hold BA and the unions in contempt, both of them are scum!
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