And the next England manager is?

[Puppet Master]

What's the obsession with the new manager having to be English? Does it matter? Why don't the FA look at spending some of their millions on investing in coaching and ensuring that in the future, at least there will be a bigger pool of choice.

What exactly are Allardyce's credentials? He can shout really loud from the touchline? Hodgson was supposedly a manager skilled at getting the best out of very average players. It's like they never learn.
Just get Hiddink in, get someone like Howe or Shearer alongside him to be groomed as a potential sucessor and just pray 20 years from now we won't even have to entertain the idea of hiring a Southgate or Allardyce.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Leaving aside my personal choice of Jurgen Klinsmann as next England manager, what the hell have the FA been doing for the last 12 months?

They knew Hodgson's contract was up after the Euros and it was virtually certain 12 months ago we'd need a new manager now.

If Sam Allardyce IS the right man to lead England then why didn't they speak to him a year ago WHEN HE WAS OUT OF WORK? They could quite easily have said "You're our man from July 2016 onwards" and Big Sam could have then been quite open with Sunderland about only being available on a short-term contract.

I genuinely feel sorry for Sunderland here. The timing of the approach by England could not be any worse, and it's no wonder Ellis Short is reported to be fuming - I see their odds on relegation have already shortened with 3 of the major bookmakers.

The FA are a shambolic bunch of amateurs, winging it as they go. Just when you think they can't get any worse they find a way to plumb new depths.

 

[Dave the OAP]

ALLADYCE!!!!

Someone is taking the piss.

 

[Normal Rob]

I that i must be losing my football marbles as I'm actuall beginning to think that Allardyce might be the right choice. He fixes teams that are broken, and England are broken.

 

[symyjym]

Allardyce is a very good manager and he can give the players some passion.

 

[Easy 10]

Because god forbid we give the job to an Englishman with 25 years of managerial experience, the vast majority of which has been spent at the top level of English football, where he has never once been relegated.

How bloody awful. We're ENGLAND for christs sake, we're massive. We won something FIFTY YEARS AGO (once). We need another trendy FOREIGN manager, with a sharp suit and an exotic accent, otherwise whats the point ?

 

[Insel affe]

I used to get excited about England matches and tournaments thinking like many fans of smaller clubs this would be one chance of seeing my team win something major in my life time....

Bang....

There goes another dream on my bucket list.

Complete lack of inspiration and excitement....

After last season I needed cheering up like our mate.... More of the same then eh....


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[WATFORD zero]

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The Rant from 50 seconds onwards is undoubtedly the highlight of Euro 2016 for me

 

[middletoenail]

Because god forbid we give the job to an Englishman with 25 years of managerial experience, the vast majority of which has been spent at the top level of English football, where he has never once been relegated.

How bloody awful. We're ENGLAND for christs sake, we're massive. We won something FIFTY YEARS AGO (once). We need another trendy FOREIGN manager, with a sharp suit and an exotic accent, otherwise whats the point ?

Exactly!

The players don't need 'coaching', they already play for top professional clubs and should receive this everyday. They need someone that gets results, and there is no argument that Allardyce achieves that with bang average players.

 

[One Love]

Because god forbid we give the job to an Englishman with 25 years of managerial experience, the vast majority of which has been spent at the top level of English football, where he has never once been relegated.

and never won anything.

Excellent credentials.

 

[Easy 10]

and never won anything.

Excellent credentials.

Primarily because he's never been at a club who can realistically challenge for anything. What exactly did you EXPECT him to win with Bolton, Newcastle or Sunderland ?

Capello won just about everything there was to win at club level. Great CV. That turned out to be perfect for Engla......oh.

 

[Mellotron]

Primarily because he's never been at a club who can realistically challenge for anything.

And why would this be?

 

[One Love]

Primarily because he's never been at a club who can realistically challenge for anything. What exactly did you EXPECT him to win with Bolton, Newcastle or Sunderland ?

Capello won just about everything there was to win at club level. Great CV. That turned out to be perfect for Engla......oh.

There's a reason he hasn't been appointed manager of a big club.

Under Capello we were pretty good, especially compared to lately. Two out of two tournament qualifications, knocked out by Germany in the only one he managed us in.

 

[jameswestport]

Arry Redknapp

 

[KingstonSeagull]

Chris Waddle

 

[Easy 10]

And why would this be?

Because English managers aren't seen as being on trend, they're never even given a chance at any top clubs. All the top clubs are foreign owned, so they routinely trawl the "glamorous" names in Europe first for that "special Juan". If he's foreign he must be good, cos they're all more cultured and stuff innit. The FA have tried this route as well, but it got too bloody expensive and didn't work out any better anyway.

There's a reason he hasn't been appointed manager of a big club.

Under Capello we were pretty good, especially compared to lately. Two out of two tournament qualifications, knocked out by Germany in the only one he managed us in.

Were we ? REALLY ? We qualified, big deal. We completely stunk the place out, and got our arses handed to us on a plate by the very first proper team we faced, just like we aaaalways do. We were tripe under Capello, and we haven't got any better in the last 4 years since he copped off.

But noooo, we MUST get another foreign manager in who's won fings and that, its bound to work this time, right ?

 

[pasty]

Because god forbid we give the job to an Englishman with 25 years of managerial experience, the vast majority of which has been spent at the top level of English football, where he has never once been relegated.

How bloody awful. We're ENGLAND for christs sake, we're massive. We won something FIFTY YEARS AGO (once). We need another trendy FOREIGN manager, with a sharp suit and an exotic accent, otherwise whats the point ?

Hugh Dennis got it bang on in Mock The Week last week.

Scenes We'd Like To See: Discarded Exam Questions. "Predict the next number in this sequence; 1966.........."

 

[One Love]

Because English managers aren't seen as being on trend, they're never even given a chance at any top clubs. All the top clubs are foreign owned, so they routinely trawl the "glamorous" names in Europe first for that "special Juan". If he's foreign he must be good, cos they're all more cultured and stuff innit. The FA have tried this route as well, but it got too bloody expensive and didn't work out any better anyway.



Were we ? REALLY ? We qualified, big deal. We completely stunk the place out, and got our arses handed to us on a plate by the very first proper team we faced, just like we aaaalways do. We were tripe under Capello, and we haven't got any better in the last 4 years since he copped off.

But noooo, we MUST get another foreign manager in who's won fings and that, its bound to work this time, right ?

OK I've got the windup.

 

[Puppet Master]

But noooo, we MUST get another foreign manager in who's won fings and that, its bound to work this time, right ?

A manager with at least some tactical acumen would be nice. No, we don't have the greatest selection of players to choose from but a move away from someone from the Hodgson school of thought - ie we MUST cram every single decent attacking midfielder and striker into the side no matter what position they're in - would be a step in the right direction. Look at West Ham. Allardyce had them playing some of the most boring, tedious football to ever stink the Premier League out. Bilic has turned pretty much the same squad (granted with Payet) into a decent side capable of challenging the big boys.

For the record, Allardyce's list of "honours" is as follows:

Limerick

League of Ireland First Division: 1991–92[209]
Notts County

Football League Third Division: 1997–98[210]
Bolton Wanderers

Football League First Division play-offs: 2001[210]
West Ham United

Football League Championship play-offs: 2012[144]

Appointing him would be as embarrassing as losing to Iceland, if not worse.

 

[Easy 10]

A manager with at least some tactical acumen would be nice. No, we don't have the greatest selection of players to choose from but a move away from someone from the Hodgson school of thought - ie we MUST cram every single decent attacking midfielder and striker into the side no matter what position they're in - would be a step in the right direction. Look at West Ham. Allardyce had them playing some of the most boring, tedious football to ever stink the Premier League out. Bilic has turned pretty much the same squad (granted with Payet) into a decent side capable of challenging the big boys.

For the record, Allardyce's list of "honours" is as follows:

Limerick

League of Ireland First Division: 1991–92[209]
Notts County

Football League Third Division: 1997–98[210]
Bolton Wanderers

Football League First Division play-offs: 2001[210]
West Ham United

Football League Championship play-offs: 2012[144]

Appointing him would be as embarrassing as losing to Iceland, if not worse.

Its a form of football snobbery just to look at Allardyce's managerial record, see no silverware, and arrive at the conclusion that 'well he must be shit then'. We've had a procession of England managers with CV's PEPPERED with success at club level in this country and abroad, and where exactly has it got us ? What exactly have we achieved under these guiding lights ? Nothing. Zip. We've got worse.

Allardyce is not a flash name, he's not a world renowned manager. But he's someone with a track record of working within the limitations of what he's got to build teams that are organised, play to a system, know their jobs and are bloody hard to beat. We might just have to accept the fact that we are not the International equivalent of Barcelona, and we never will be. We can't copy Spains tica-taca. We need someone who can pick a squad of players and actually forge a TEAM out of them - that's what he does. He's done it his entire career.

Sorry if winning games will be boring, but I for one would quite like to see us get to a semi-final once in a while and maybe even beyond. Its not much to ask is it. IMO we'd actually have more chance of that with a team built and drilled by Allardyce than we would with whoever the latest flavour of the month from abroad. BEEN there, DONE that.