Anarchy - End of the world - Bow and Arrow

[terrymendez]

When the seas eventually rise and we are all living in about one third of the world with the same population, how will we protect our food and fresh water stores against the onslaught of anarchy?

A mate of mine is teaching himself to make a bow and arrow - long ranged renewable weapon he reckons. He is also selling his basement flat.

Has anyone else seriously thought about this?

 

[Tooting Gull]

Err..no.

 

[Easy 10]

He is also selling his basement flat.

marvellous.

 

[Seagullible]

He is also selling his basement flat.

is he planning on building an ark?

 

[terrymendez]

Moving to higher ground yes, an Arc maybe not.

I think I worry too much - Seven Dials should be high enough ground for me,

I am thinking maybe a hatchet, it has other skills in addition to self defence, - canoe making - oar carving. However if you had to use a hatchet are the predators too close already...?

I am not going to lose any more sleep over it, how long have we got anyway - ? May talk it over with the kids later in life but I am not sure we have to worry about it too much..

 

[withdeanwombat]

The population will be considerably smaller as most of the coastal population will be swept away by God's cleansing tide.

Like Pharoah's tribe we'll be..........................

 

[terrymendez]

Is this happening before or after the ice age? If so its a mighty assumption that we will live through the ice age, ice is darn cold.

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

I am learning to go three hours day without a computer. I will increase it to six hours by the end of the week but I admit it's truly frightening to think any further ahead.

I have nightmares about living in a starbucks-free universe!

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Is this happening before or after the ice age? If so its a mighty assumption that we will live through the ice age, ice is darn cold.

Well, it certainly will happen after each ice age, as frozen land based ice melts... I guess the big question is whether the climate is;

1. Warming up - rising sea levels
2. Staying roughly the same
3. Heading out of the current interglacial period into a renewed ice age - lowering sea level - drive to france!

Although it's a heretical view, there are many people who beleive that with the very low solar activity of late we are heading for a Maunder Minimum style cooling phase (much like the little Ice Age).

Papa

 

[terrymendez]

Well, it certainly will happen after each ice age, as frozen land based ice melts... I guess the big question is whether the climate is;

1. Warming up - rising sea levels
2. Staying roughly the same
3. Heading out of the current interglacial period into a renewed ice age - lowering sea level - drive to france!

Although it's a heretical view, there are many people who beleive that with the very low solar activity of late we are heading for a Maunder Minimum style cooling phase (much like the little Ice Age).

Papa

Shit - worried again now.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Shit - worried again now.

I'm in a quandry over whether to invest in desk fans of ski wear ... which way will the climate go??

 

[steward 433]

I'm in a quandry over whether to invest in desk fans of ski wear ... which way will the climate go??

Ski wear gonna get colder in a few years

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Ski wear gonna get colder in a few years

Blimey - are you working for the IPCC or the Hadley Centre?

Could be though.

I have an active interest in weather / climate, having studied it at Uni, and am a member of a couple of weather forums (I know, I'm a weather geek!), and although the 'general concensus' is for the climate to warm up as a result of CO2 increases, there are experts out there that disagree. Generally they are dismissed as sceptics / flat earthers, but one thing to think about is the over the last 10 years there has been no increase in global temperatures at all... couple that with the current solar low (and delayed solar cycle 25 - no sun spots for months), we are at a key point in terms of what happens next.

I personally feel that the odds are still very much on an increase in global temperatures, as the model forecasts do allow for 'natural variability', so the 10 year lull could just be that, and I'd say that an increase in temp would be more preferable than a renewed ice age... just imagine ice sheets covering Northern Europe and most of continental USA... that would be a disaster.

Papa

 

[steward 433]

Blimey - are you working for the IPCC or the Hadley Centre?

Could be though.

I have an active interest in weather / climate, having studied it at Uni, and am a member of a couple of weather forums (I know, I'm a weather geek!), and although the 'general concensus' is for the climate to warm up as a result of CO2 increases, there are experts out there that disagree. Generally they are dismissed as sceptics / flat earthers, but one thing to think about is the over the last 10 years there has been no increase in global temperatures at all... couple that with the current solar low (and delayed solar cycle 25 - no sun spots for months), we are at a key point in terms of what happens next.

I personally feel that the odds are still very much on an increase in global temperatures, as the model forecasts do allow for 'natural variability', so the 10 year lull could just be that, and I'd say that an increase in temp would be more preferable than a renewed ice age... just imagine ice sheets covering Northern Europe and most of continental USA... that would be a disaster.

Papa

The earths natural cycle is at the top of the oval. Tempratures have peaked and due to the higher temp plants have grown at an vastly increased rate causing an increase in oxygen in the atmosphere. The ice age is slowly beckoning as it always has been in the 20,000 or so year cycle.
Saying that i don't think it will be as harsh as the last ice ages due to the higher ground tempratures caused by humans

 

[beorhthelm]

interesting about the solar activity there. i recall recently a lot of effort going into dismissing objections to global warming, based on solar influences, but it seemed to me they where attacking some old research and a little bit like they where saying the sun has no input... yeah, that makes sence. also that point about no global temp rise for 10 years, is that citable? not heard that before.

my understanding is that the models are all shit, because there isnt enough or quality of historical data going back long enough, nor the computer power to do sufficent alternative simulation runs to get an accurate picture. so the climatologist load up the simulations with a whole number of preconceptions then find their pet theory fits. what a surprise. of course, you wont find a climatologist saying this, so i have little evidence, but models are being questioned and you do read comments from time to time along the lines of "we dont really know, but" and stuff about how much more processing power it takes to run simulations than institutions currently have.

 

[mona]

Rising sea levels will mean that both Fratton Park and St. Mary's will be under water. This will enable the Albion to become the premier club on the south coast.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Good foresight by the club to build the new ground high on the Downs

 

[Gazwag]

Paper and soil will be the new currency, I saw that in a documentary once, had a famous film star with webbed feet in.

 

[vegster]

Well, it certainly will happen after each ice age, as frozen land based ice melts... I guess the big question is whether the climate is;

1. Warming up - rising sea levels
2. Staying roughly the same
3. Heading out of the current interglacial period into a renewed ice age - lowering sea level - drive to france!

Although it's a heretical view, there are many people who beleive that with the very low solar activity of late we are heading for a Maunder Minimum style cooling phase (much like the little Ice Age).

Papa

I'm afraid this will be immaterial when "The Big One " hits. remember we are long overdue for an Extinction event, even a meteorite of ,say 10K diameter should wipe out 9 1/10s of life on Earth.

Oh, sorry to be a bit pessimistic but there is also a HUGE magma plume which has been building up under Yosemite Park in western USA. if this blows explosively there will be so much Co2 and ash and aerosols in the air it will wipe out most of our ability to feed ourselves for a time of up to 5 years. if it blows Effusively then the Co2 input would still be astronomic. Certainly in the Northern Hemisphere it would be catastrophic. The Southern Hemisphere may limp on for a couple of years but....

 

[Normal Rob]

The cooling period hits on Thursday...

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