An UNLUCKY Lottery Win!? - Can anyone work out the odd's..

[VICENTE]

So I played my usual 3 lucky dip lines on Tuesday night..

I cant help feel hard done by? considering the odds of this happening against the prize I won?

Can any clever sod work out the odds of this happening - I had three lines and hit the following on the last two lines..





14 Million!

Still the 2 x £10 wins will go nicely towards Saturday nights beer bin!!

 

[drew]

I don't know the odds but it happened to me about a month ago on the Saturday draw. I only do two lines and got all six numbers, 4 on one line (£49) and 2 on the other (£0). I do the same numbers every week so knew there was f*** all chance of them coming up the following week but still had to do them, just in case!!!

 

[Durlston]

Eh? I don't understand. Haven't you won the jackpot then, old boy?

That is my most frequent dream when I'm asleep. I check my lotto numbers, find they all match then lose the ticket or it's for a different draw!

Edit: I see what's happened now. Three other random numbers on the winning lines. I thought the third line had all six correct balls you chose on the ticket.

 

[VICENTE]

Eh? I don't understand. Haven't you won the jackpot then, old boy?

That is my most frequent dream when I'm asleep. I check my lotto numbers, find they all match then lose the ticket or it's for a different draw!

Edit: I see what's happened now. Three other random numbers on the winning lines.

Yeah 3 numbers on one ticket, 3 on the next, put them together and boom! 8 LARGE triple Whiskey and Americans!

 

[8ace]

I don't think the odds of this happening are that huge, I'm shit at statistics by my guess is 1/3210

EDIT: Don't think that's right.

 

[Durlston]

Yeah 3 numbers on one ticket, 3 on the next, put them together and boom! 8 LARGE triple Whiskey and Americans!

Enjoy your drinks after another three points on Saturday night mate.

I tend to just do the hotpicks of picking three numbers (to win 450 quid) and didn't do them one midweek a couple of months ago when 3, 19 and 34 popped out. I was absolutely gutted.

 

[KingKev]

I don't think the odds of this happening are that huge, I'm shit at statistics by my guess is 1/3210

Any 6 numbers drawn in a row from a population of 50 is about 14million to one.

 

[VICENTE]

I was thinking roughly half the odds of the jackpot win? So about 7Million/1 on that happening... And i won £20!



7Million/1 Can't be right...

 

[8ace]

My calculation was based on the odds of winning a tenner and winning another tenner.

 

[VICENTE]

My calculation was based on the odds of winning a tenner and winning another tenner.

I think the odds increase dramatically because of the fact that, I didn't hit the bonus ball.... and I got no duplicate numbers in either obviously...

 

[Guinness Boy]

Statistically you are more likely to die on your way to buy a national lottery ticket than you are of winning the main prize. An actuary told me that so it must be true.

 

[8ace]

I think the odds increase dramatically because of the fact that, I didn't hit the bonus ball.... and I got no duplicate numbers in either obviously...

Yes, duplicates would be allowed in that 1/3210 so it's wrong.
I know someone who's had this a couple of times before - albeit doing five lines so it's not that unlikely.

 

[8ace]

I was thinking roughly half the odds of the jackpot win? So about 7Million/1 on that happening... And i won £20!



7Million/1 Can't be right...

That is the odds of winning the Jackpot if you buy two tickets instead of one.

 

[DTES]

By my workings, assuming no duplicate numbers on the lines you buy:

A winning line (as in the real numbers that are drawn) would leave you in this position if it had (a) ANY three from Ticket A, and (b) ANY three from Ticket B. There are 20 ways of picking 3 numbers out of 6, so 20 possible ways of satisfying (a) and 20 possible ways of satisfying (b). There are then 400 (20 x 20) different lottery draws that would leave you in this position if you buy 2 tickets.

There are 13,983,816 possible lottery draws, of which 400 do the job, so 1 in 34,959 - if you only buy 2 tickets.

However, you said you bought 3 tickets so it could have happened across any combination of 2 out of those 3. There are 3 ways of picking 2 out of 3, so actually 3 times more likely.

Therefore I reckon the answer is 3 in 34,959 or 1 in 11,653.

(As an aside to [MENTION=588]8ace[/MENTION] , doing 5 lines gives 10 different combinations of 2 lines so chance would be 1 in 3,496. Still bloody unlikely for it to happen a couple of times though... so maybe I've gone wrong somewhere!)

 

[Triggaaar]

My calculation was based on the odds of winning a tenner and winning another tenner.

First half right, but second much more unlikely, as he didn't just get 3 numbers, he got the specific 3 that he missed the first time. I don't know how to work it out

 

[8ace]

That seems to make sense [MENTION=256]DTES[/MENTION] . The bloke definitely had it one time as he showed me the ticket, he said he had the other one only a couple of months before. He wasn't a bullshitter but he was a massive piss artist so he could have got confused I suppose.

 

[nail-Z]

If you did 2 lines you covered 12 numbers. So your odds of hitting 6 from 12 are about 12000/1 I estimate.

First ball out you have a 12/49 chance
Then 11/48, 10/47, 9/46, etc. the odds will be all 6 of these multiplied.

I think.

 

[The Camel]

A few weeks ago a mate bought two lucky dips and was presented with the same set of 6 numbers twice.

That's the same odds as winning the lottery but unfortunately he gets zilch for it!

 

[Lord Bracknell]

A few weeks ago a mate bought two lucky dips and was presented with the same set of 6 numbers twice.

That's the same odds as winning the lottery but unfortunately he gets zilch for it!

The real question isn't what are the odds of 6 numbers appearing on two consecutive tickets. As you suggest, it's about 14 million to 1 against. The interesting question is:- what are the odds of you knowing the person that it happened to?

 

[Triggaaar]

I haven't worked out the odds for you buying 3 tickets, but I have worked it out for you just buying 2:

The total number of combinations, or the odds of getting all 6 numbers = combination (49,6)
type COMBIN(49,6) into excel = 13,983,816

The odds of getting any 3 of those numbers is combination (6,3) for the winning ones, times combination (43,3) for the losing ones (ie, you've hit 3 out of 6 winning numbers and 3 out of 43 losing ones), divided by the total number of combinations ( combination 49,6).
- 0.01765 (or 1 in 56.66)

The next ticket needs to get 3 winning numbers out of 3:
combination (3,3) times combination (43,3) / combination (49,6) = 1 in 1133

So the odds of getting the first 3, and then hitting the next 3, is 1/64,198