Amex hotel proposal will be decided at BHCC Planning Committee 17th February

[Knotty]

Don't need to be in possession of many 'facts' to be able to deduce that the cancer unit was added to the hotel application purely and simply as a sweetener.[/QUOTE

Personally, I'd prefer to know a lot more about it before jumping to cynical conclusions.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Don't need to be in possession of many 'facts' to be able to deduce that the cancer unit was added to the hotel application purely and simply as a sweetener.[/QUOTE

Personally, I'd prefer to know a lot more about it before jumping to cynical conclusions.

Each to their own

 

[Easy 10]

Each to their own

Isn't it annoying when someone bollockses up the quote function, then you quote it and end up looking like you're quoting yourself.

 

[Knotty]

Isn't it annoying when someone bollockses up the quote function, then you quote it and end up looking like you're quoting yourself.

Very!

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

So. [MENTION=1778]Knotty[/MENTION] .. recovering quickly from that schoolboy error and getting quickly back on track...

What's the more cynical in your view: the sweetening of a hotel application with the inclusion of a 'cancer unit', or the pointing out of same?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Isn't it annoying when someone bollockses up the quote function, then you quote it and end up looking like you're quoting yourself.

Even MORE annoying when some smartass lardass points it out

 

[Easy 10]

 

[Knotty]

So. [MENTION=1778]Knotty[/MENTION] .. recovering quickly from that schoolboy error and getting quickly back on track...

What's the more cynical in your view: the sweetening of a hotel application with the inclusion of a 'cancer unit', or the pointing out of same?

Your 'pointing out' is the cynical bit because all you are doing is 'pointing out' a scenario that is a pure guess on your part. It is an opinion you hold based on no evidence.

If you can provide the evidence then I will apologetically agree with you!

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

The trouble with adding green walls and green roofs and curved roofs is that the development would quickly become unviable. A green roof would cost thousands a year to maintain on its own.

 

[Dave the OAP]

The trouble with adding green walls and green roofs and curved roofs is that the development would quickly become unviable. A green roof would cost thousands a year to maintain on its own.

I know someone who works for the corporate side of M&S and they regret putting grass and the like on the roof as it absorbs rain and they were constantly reinforcing the roof structure.

 

[easynow]

Alternatively, drivers should keep their eyes on the road!

The laser eye beams are from the passengers. I think it's a great sight for locals and visitors driving into Brighton, that's the only chance most people will see it (unless you're football fan or driving along that stretch of the a27)

 

[easynow]

I know someone who works for the corporate side of M&S and they regret putting grass and the like on the roof as it absorbs rain and they were constantly reinforcing the roof structure.

Grass and soil absorbs water? Since when?

 

[Dave the OAP]

Grass and soil absorbs water? Since when?

Who would have thought it.

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

I don't think MP did himself any favours with that quote, just smacks of arrogance and a sense of entitlement. Probably assumed the planning committee wouldn't dare turn down a proposal with the serious sweetener of a cancer unit tagged on.

Just go away Martin, do your homework and come back with a more aesthetically-pleasing design. That's all they seems to be asking for, and its something you should maybe have anticipated. Schoolboy error by the boy Perry. IMHO, like.

No anticipation was required; it was made clear at the pre-application meeting, in the notes/minutes of that meeting, by the officer during assessment and in her final report that the design was not considered to be satisfactory by the Council. Furthermore, referral to an external, independent architect panel was suggested at pre-application and during assessment but not taken up by the applicant. I found MP's rationale for this at the planning meeting (basically; we have the best architects already so what's the point) very odd, particularly when knowingly faced with a rejection recommendation.
So to was the approach to payments under a S106 "post approval" agreement; the club's out of hand rejection until the day before the meeting followed by a clumsy attempt to change the normal payment arrangements for same is, frankly, bizarre and was questioned by a number of Councillors. One, in particular, seemed very troubled by the underlying motive behind this nonsense and ended up abstaining.

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

No anticipation was required; it was made clear at the pre-application meeting, in the notes/minutes of that meeting, by the officer during assessment and in her final report that the design was not considered to be satisfactory by the Council. Furthermore, referral to an external, independent architect panel was suggested at pre-application and during assessment but not taken up by the applicant. I found MP's rationale for this at the planning meeting (basically; we have the best architects already so what's the point) very odd, particularly when knowingly faced with a rejection recommendation.
So to was the approach to payments under a S106 "post approval" agreement; the club's out of hand rejection until the day before the meeting followed by a clumsy attempt to change the normal payment arrangements for same is, frankly, bizarre and was questioned by a number of Councillors. One, in particular, seemed very troubled by the underlying motive behind this nonsense and ended up abstaining.

Has Martin Perry lost his touch/his four leaf clover/or his marbles

 

[ewe2]

Has Martin Perry lost his touch/his four leaf clover/or his marbles

...Well he wont be tarmacking your drive........

 

[Postman Pat]

So to was the approach to payments under a S106 "post approval" agreement; the club's out of hand rejection until the day before the meeting followed by a clumsy attempt to change the normal payment arrangements for same is, frankly, bizarre and was questioned by a number of Councillors. One, in particular, seemed very troubled by the underlying motive behind this nonsense and ended up abstaining.

The club was also accused of “arrogance” over its perceived inflexibility around 106 payments which all major applications must make to cover the potential local impact of the development.

Albion baulked at the council’s initial demands for £147,000 towards sustainable transport and a local employment scheme which were then reduced down to £28,000 and £17,000.

The sum is small fry compared to what the club has already provided in terms of transport improvements and employment training in the city.

As part of £11.25 million transport improvements to the stadium, the club and other transport bodies have spent £6 million on a new junction outside Southern Water in Lewes Road, a bridge over Falmer Railway Station costing £1.75 million, £500,000 on extending railway platforms and the £1 million widening of Village Way.

The club said they were still happy to meet the additional £28,000 to make nearby bus stops more disability friendly but wanted to delay payment until contracts for the work had been agreed.

The council said this would be too onerous on themselves and said they could not make an special exception – not even for Albion.

The club is more unhappy with the demands to pay £17,000 towards an employability scheme – pointing again to their considerable contribution to employment training in the city which would only grow with the hotel.

Albion officials believe the contribution is more appropriate for developers from outside Brighton rather than employers who are “part of the fabric of the city” and already spend more than £400,000 training their staff and support the Bridge Community Centre with £80,000 a year.

The club also has a hugely positive impact through its Albion in the Community charity arm.

 

[heathgate]

http://m.theargus.co.uk/news/143280...ms_for_up_to_1400_more_students/?ref=mrb&lp=8

Let's hope they build nice curvey roof profiles.... otherwise no chance.

 

[dingodan]

I was quite surprised when first saw the picture of the hotel. Looks like an old Soviet housing block. I'm not surprised it was rejected, it's kind of ugly next to the beautiful Amex.

 

[skipper734]

Meanwhile over the road, there's a whole new town and Campus being built, and nobodies noticed.

[h=1]First look at new student homes on Falmer campus[/h]Posted On 08 Mar 2016 at 11:16 am
By : Jo Wadsworth
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The University of Sussex has unveiled plans for a new student village on its campus at Falmer. The new development will triple the amount of student housing on its East Slope site from around 600 beds to more than 2,000.

New student facilities will also be located in the village.The plans are the first stage of a £500 million programme of investment to modernise and improve the campus.
The University is one of the area’s biggest employers and estimates that around 2400 new permanent jobs will be created as a result of its campus redevelopment.
John Duffy, the University’s Registrar and Secretary, said: “We want to provide the best facilities for our students and staff so that we can continue to undertake life-changing research and bring all the benefits of being an internationally recognised educational institution to the Brighton region.
“Over time, we hope to house more of our students on campus or in University operated accommodation, rather than in the private residential sector in Brighton and Hove. This new development is a key part of that vision.

“The University has been working closely with local residents and businesses, Brighton & Hove City Council, Historic England and other local bodies, as well as our own students, to ensure that we take into account their views. We are hosting a number of public information days to give people a chance to look at our plans and discuss their thoughts.”

Ahead of submitting its planning applications, the University is sharing details of the new student village, which will contain:

• 2,100 student bedrooms to replace 590 outdated units built in the 1970s
• A mix of town houses and flats
• Communal areas such as kitchens, common rooms, laundry space
• Secure cycle parking for every resident
• New Students’ facilities

The new student facilities will accommodate a huge range of activities – study, socialising, events and mobilising volunteers. Around 1,000 Sussex students take part in volunteering activities every year.The new buildings have been designed so that they respect and enhance the vision of the campus’ founding architect, Sir Basil Spence.
Maintaining the features of the unique landscape setting within the South Downs is at the heart of the University’s plans. Last year the University was granted outline consent for its campus Masterplan, which includes the majority of this new student accommodation.
Subject to approval, work will begin on the site in January 2017. The first phase will then be ready around September/October 2018, with all work completed by 2020.

The University will be sharing its plans with the local community on two information days:
University of Sussex information centre, 91 Lewes Road – Thursday 10 March:
12noon–2pm
Jubilee Library, Jubilee Street, Brighton, – Thursday 10 March and Saturday 12 March: