[News] American mass shootings

[Ding Dong !]

Americans

Their laws, their rules !!!! what do they expect

 

[BBassic]

I mean, really, what hope do they have?

This is one of their elected representatives offering thoughts and prayers whilst also sending out Christmas cards featuring his entire family holding automatic rifles.

The Internet Won’t Let Nashville Rep. Andy Ogles Forget His Family Christmas Card After School Shooting

Ogles offered his constituents “thoughts and prayers” after a school shooting in his district.

newrepublic.com

“We are sending our thoughts and prayers to the families of those lost. As a father of three, I am utterly heartbroken by this senseless act of violence. I am closely monitoring the situation and working with local officials,” he tweeted.

In the photo from the 2021 Ogles family Christmas card, the representative, his wife, and their three children pose in front of a Christmas tree. They’re all holding automatic rifles, except the youngest, who apparently is too young for a gun just yet and so has to hold the “Merry Christmas” sign.

 

[Insel affe]

I mean, really, what hope do they have?

This is one of their elected representatives offering thoughts and prayers whilst also sending out Christmas cards featuring his entire family holding automatic rifles.

The Internet Won’t Let Nashville Rep. Andy Ogles Forget His Family Christmas Card After School Shooting

Ogles offered his constituents “thoughts and prayers” after a school shooting in his district.

newrepublic.com

“We are sending our thoughts and prayers to the families of those lost. As a father of three, I am utterly heartbroken by this senseless act of violence. I am closely monitoring the situation and working with local officials,” he tweeted.

In the photo from the 2021 Ogles family Christmas card, the representative, his wife, and their three children pose in front of a Christmas tree. They’re all holding automatic rifles, except the youngest, who apparently is too young for a gun just yet and so has to hold the “Merry Christmas” sign.

What hope has anyone got when people like this are in positions of power.

I am no Christian, but the family Christmas pose is utterly disgusting and goes against everything Christianity purports to represent.
Peace & Goodwill to all men, hang on I note they seem to omit women & Children from that message so maybe they are fair game.

Why do this, what message are you sending ?

 

[Greg Bobkin]

It sounds like it was a Trans person with a vendetta and mental health issues. Mental health issues and easy access to guns are never a good idea. I doubt anything will change.

Not your post per se, but there always seems to be a rush to blame pretty much ANYTHING other than the actual gun/person when there is a shooting. I'm sure there are LOADS of trans people with MH issues around the world who will never carry out a mass shooting. It's almost as if the availability of – and easy access to – guns might have something to do with it. I'm not even sure why them being trans is being highlighted.

Funny also, how, anecdotally, black people carrying weapons almost never have MH issues and that non-US citizens are portrayed as terrorists, too. The media/political spin is out of control and reels people in every single time.

As many on here have said, things will never change. What a messed up situation.

 

[portslade seagull]

Sadly are more Important than lives in America. Until they overcome this way of thinking these incidents are on rinse and repeat

 

[Badger Boy]

What hope has anyone got when people like this are in positions of power.

I am no Christian, but the family Christmas pose is utterly disgusting and goes against everything Christianity purports to represent.
Peace & Goodwill to all men, hang on I note they seem to omit women & Children from that message so maybe they are fair game.

Why do this, what message are you sending ?


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No, No, No, No, Yes.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

I've completely given up hope of it ever being changed. I put a rant on this same thread about how angry it gets me.

If, as a pro-gun american, you can sit there, watch the families of CHILDREN, on their knees crying over their horrific loss, then go back to your own family, your own little innocent children, and your brain doesn't even DARE register the thought of "hmmm, this isn't good. MAYBE we should just CONSIDER doing something to stop children being murdered?" then there's no hope for you.

Pathetic people. Pathetic arguments.

 

[A1X]

There's a very obvious solution to the problem. They refuse to do what they need to.

At this point it feels like most of their populations are simply accessories to all these atrocities. They dip their hands in the blood and smear "HANDS OFF OUR GUNS" on the wall.

 

[BBassic]

I'm not even sure why them being trans is being highlighted.

It's being highlighted precisely because they're trans.

It allows the gun nuts in America to say "it's not the guns, it's the trans people". It allows the lawmakers to further push their anti-trans agenda. It allows the churches to further their agendas.

It's all fuel for culture wars.

 

[South Oz Seagull]

You are right in that the racial division in the US has to be seen to be believed. I will never forget as a student coming over the border from Canada into Detroit, and the US border guards warning us to keep the car locked at all times as we drove through the city to get out west. Within 20 minutes we were in a scene out of the apocalypse, in gridlock on a four lane high road through urban decay. And incredibly, we were pretty much the only white faces we could see in the traffic jam or walking the admittedly desolate streets. It was absolutely incredible and I wouldn't have believed the stark racial segregation as the 51 year man that I am now if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes.

So yes, I have to agree with what you say. But there is a bizarre paradox that cannot be ignored, and that is that you don't find gun stores on every corner in white affluent neighbourhoods (the people so worried about crime), yet they are absolutely everywhere in the urban decaying areas where so many black people live in segregated America. They are the American equivalent of betting shops.

What you say in the last para there is just crazy if that's what's going on over there these days. I don't recall that from my time in the US.

 

[Sepulveda]

It's being highlighted precisely because they're trans.

It allows the gun nuts in America to say "it's not the guns, it's the trans people". It allows the lawmakers to further push their anti-trans agenda. It allows the churches to further their agendas.

It's all fuel for culture wars.

To be fair it might also be highlighted as part of the motive in terms of personal history of the killer and hatred towards that particular school; same as they usually say "X was a shut-in who'd been bullied in school and was considered weird by his work colleagues" for other mass-shooters. I agree that it will be used to redirect focus from their gun problem though; same as they usually do with "mental illness/bullying/isolation" for the other killers but this time it's much easier given how the trans topic is still very much publicly discussed and polarizing.

 

[JamesAndTheGiantHead]

News organisations could save a lot of reporting time if they just notified us on days when there isn’t a mass-shooting, otherwise we can take it as read.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

It's being highlighted precisely because they're trans.

It allows the gun nuts in America to say "it's not the guns, it's the trans people". It allows the lawmakers to further push their anti-trans agenda. It allows the churches to further their agendas.

It's all fuel for culture wars.

Yeah, I figured as much – same old, same old with gay/black/asian shooter. Anything that sets them apart in a negative way.

But when it makes it to a BBC report, you have to question it a bit. Or maybe there's no one left in the corporation to stop and think about what's being published?!

 

[Perfidious Albion]

“
According to the K-12 School Shooting Database resource, there have been at least 89 instances of gun violence at kindergarten through 12th-grade schools or during school activities in the US this year.”

That’s a terrible statistic, from The Guardian

 

[Greg Bobkin]

“
According to the K-12 School Shooting Database resource, there have been at least 89 instances of gun violence at kindergarten through 12th-grade schools or during school activities in the US this year.”

That’s a terrible statistic, from The Guardian

I firmly believe it won't be long before someone suggests arming pre-school kids for their own protection and safety. Or maybe it's already happened – I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Badger Boy]

“
According to the K-12 School Shooting Database resource, there have been at least 89 instances of gun violence at kindergarten through 12th-grade schools or during school activities in the US this year.”

That’s a terrible statistic, from The Guardian

To be fair, it's not that bad given we're in late December and the school year is over so it won't keep increasing!

Ridiculous country to allow this kind of thing to keep happening.

 

[Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ]

To be fair, it's not that bad given we're in late December

Umnn, it's almost April now buddy. Have you been hibernating?

 

[A1X]

“
According to the K-12 School Shooting Database resource, there have been at least 89 instances of gun violence at kindergarten through 12th-grade schools or during school activities in the US this year.”

That’s a terrible statistic, from The Guardian

To put that stat in context, today is the 87th day of the year. So that's more than one per day in 2023.

If you exclude weekends, today is the 62nd weekday of the year.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

I firmly believe it won't be long before someone suggests arming pre-school kids for their own protection and safety. Or maybe it's already happened – I wouldn't be surprised.

Go to 3:00

Sacha Baron Cohen doing a spoof add with a gun nut who GENUINELY thinks this is a real advert.

Song:
Aim at the head, not the shoulder or the toes or the toes

 

[Badger Boy]

Umnn, it's almost April now buddy. Have you been hibernating?

Poorly executed gag! That number would be monstrous if it was late December, but it's not even the end of March yet! It's going to be in the hundreds come the end of the year. What a truly pointless and completely avoidable waste of life.