[Politics] Amber Rudd used the word “coloured”

[Badger]

Correct. Racism is something said with intent, not the clumsy use of an antiquated term in error.

Exactly. People seem to forget there's context involved.

 

[symyjym]

She should have been more thoughtful and said funny tinge.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

What is racist about Rudds comment ? Using the word coloured ? Would it have been ok if she had said black instead of coloured ?

Have a look at the little jester icon at the end of my comment. Consider yourself whooshed!

 

[Eeyore]

2019. Context and intent can do one.

A simple apology ? I don't think so.

Burn her.

 

[symyjym]

Mind you the Hove based, Simone O'Broin, Human Rights International and Criminal Lawyer, SJW BDS activist hurling racist abuse on a flight has got a rotten gob on her too. Welcome to the Neo Alt Left:

https://youtu.be/-gCObPm9_zc

 

[Dave the OAP]

So she is sticking up for Diane Abbott, who whatever colour she is is a bloody disaster area, and Abbott ignores the message and turns it against her for some political point scoring!


I think that says far more about dianne Abbott than it does about amber rudd.

 

[Knocky's Nose]

The term’ coloured’ was used as a derogatory racist term in the US. It was also used in South Africa to describe racial groups who weren’t Black or White, therefore it is seen as derogatory to use it against any person of colour today. If you’re a White person and can’t understand why this is seen as offensive by non-White people, perhaps, just don’t use that term.
Unless, of course you want to offend.

Let me get this straight...

Okay... so is the 'coloured' part the offensive word? Saying that the persons skin is coloured. A fact (as it is indeed pigmented) but has indeed been used in a derogatory way historically, which therefore makes it offensive on some level - even in the modern day. I get that.

So, and this is the bit I don't understand, why is 'woman of colour' entirely acceptable - and 'coloured woman' is completely unacceptable? Same actual word, same meaning... Neither of which I've ever seen hurled at someone as part of a barrage of vitriol. Have you?

And don't get me started on the word 'Nigga' - where it's THE most vehemently racist terminology you could ever use (which I agree is absolutely the case by the way) - yet 'people of colour' (?) say it as often as the word 'and' in America to describe themselves and their friends and nobody bats an eyelid??

The world is a confusing place these days, for sure.

 

[Hillian1]

Outraged over here.

 

[Lower West Stander]

The term’ coloured’ was used as a derogatory racist term in the US. It was also used in South Africa to describe racial groups who weren’t Black or White, therefore it is seen as derogatory to use it against any person of colour today. If you’re a White person and can’t understand why this is seen as offensive by non-White people, perhaps, just don’t use that term.
Unless, of course you want to offend.

To be honest, I don’t know what does and doesn’t offend anymore. I genuinely mean that, I live in fear of offending someone without realising it.

And since when did black and white need to have capital letters?


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[Bladders]

STONE HER!

And her family, friends and anybody she's known through out her life.

This is right up there with murder and bumping into someones parked car and not leaving your details under the windscreen wiper.

 

[Knocky's Nose]

.....I live in fear of offending someone without realising it.

Which can lead to people thinking "you know what - I can't be arsed, I'll just keep out of his/her way just in case I say something wrong. I'll talk to him/her when I have to, and say as little as possible."

... and that's how to breed resentment.

 

[lawros left foot]

Let me get this straight...

Okay... so is the 'coloured' part the offensive word? Saying that the persons skin is coloured. A fact (as it is indeed pigmented) but has indeed been used in a derogatory way historically, which therefore makes it offensive on some level - even in the modern day. I get that.

So, and this is the bit I don't understand, why is 'woman of colour' entirely acceptable - and 'coloured woman' is completely unacceptable? Same actual word, same meaning... Neither of which I've ever seen hurled at someone as part of a barrage of vitriol. Have you?

And don't get me started on the word 'Nigga' - where it's THE most vehemently and disgustingly racist terminology you could ever use (which I agree is absolutely the case by the way) - yet 'people of colour' (?) say it as often as the word 'and' in America and nobody bats an eyelid??

The world is a confusing place these days, for sure.

It’s not for you(I assume you’re white coloured) or me to decide what black people can or can’t find offensive. I can remember when the words ‘****** and paki’ were used quite freely in society, as well as words like spade, sooty, wog and coon. Fortunately, these appear to have been consigned to the dustbin of history by the more intelligent amongst us.

I think the use of the word nigga in (mainly) America, is the same as homosexual people reclaiming the word queer, so that it is not seen so much as an insult, along the same lines of us singing “ You’re too ugly to be gay” when opposition fans come out with the tired old homophobic songs about our club.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I would agree if it were almost any other profession other than a politician.

It is literally her job to represent the public. It's her job to be mindful of the things she is saying. If she is using a racist term publicly then she is not fit to do her job, simple as that.

But most concerning for me is that it is likely a fruedian slip, as she will know full well that it is a racist term, and uses it anyway. It is also likely to offer an insight into the kind of company she keeps where it acceptable to use this kind of language.

I have to say i completely disagree with you. I have lots of mates from Africa etc and they are not bothered by this fake racism at all. They often have real racism to deal with.

 

[Sheebo]

Who gives a **** if she didn’t mean offends... I mean reeeeeeeallly?

 

[Lower West Stander]

It’s not for you(I assume you’re white coloured) or me to decide what black people can or can’t find offensive. I can remember when the words ‘****** and paki’ were used quite freely in society, as well as words like spade, sooty, wog and coon. Fortunately, these appear to have been consigned to the dustbin of history by the more intelligent amongst us.

I think the use of the word nigga in (mainly) America, is the same as homosexual people reclaiming the word queer, so that it is not seen so much as an insult, along the same lines of us singing “ You’re too ugly to be gay” when opposition fans come out with the tired old homophobic songs about our club.

You are completely wrong.

Try sitting in the back of a New York taxi and listening to some things the drivers say.....

And they are “men of colour”


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[Bold Seagull]

She could join the Independent Group as they could add her coloured to their funny tinge.

 

[Ernest]

But what about Labour

 

[Bold Seagull]

So she is sticking up for Diane Abbott, who whatever colour she is is a bloody disaster area, and Abbott ignores the message and turns it against her for some political point scoring!

I think that says far more about dianne Abbott than it does about amber rudd.

Says more about you to think like that to be fair.

 

[Knocky's Nose]

It’s not for you(I assume you’re white coloured) or me to decide what black people can or can’t find offensive. I can remember when the words ‘****** and paki’ were used quite freely in society, as well as words like spade, sooty, wog and coon. Fortunately, these appear to have been consigned to the dustbin of history by the more intelligent amongst us.

I think the use of the word nigga in (mainly) America, is the same as homosexual people reclaiming the word queer, so that it is not seen so much as an insult, along the same lines of us singing “ You’re too ugly to be gay” when opposition fans come out with the tired old homophobic songs about our club.

"White coloured" There's a new one on me!

I respectfully disagree that the word 'Queer' is the same as 'Nigga'. Call a homosexual 'queer' and you'll get a raised eyebrow. Call a black person a 'Nigga' and you'll get arrested. However, when one black person calls another black person a nigga - it's absolutely fine.

That's what confuses me..... If it's a word which offends to the point of the police becoming involved when it's used, why is it okay to use? I don't seem to remember any one of the gay people I've met high-fiving each other and shouting "Hey, how's it hanging poof?"

 

[lawros left foot]

You are completely wrong.

Try sitting in the back of a New York taxi and listening to some things the drivers say.....

And they are “men of colour”


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So, you’re saying that black people use that term as a term of abuse, or they use it as more a term of endearment (almost) the same way British people use ‘mate’?

Whichever way black people use that word, when a white person uses it, it is always derogatory, because of the history of the term, and all it entails.