Its the players that are to blame, playing for England means less to them than checking the bank balance. I am really pleased that Zambia are in the final of the African Cup of Nations and they have just 1 European based player. They play with passion and pride, yes may not be the best but they are united and proud! To see 3 fat cats at the FA press conference showed to me whats wrong with the FA. People making decisions should be ex players etc not some wan*ers who just want the headlines, Ooooohhh look we took the Captains armband away from Terry, we are so clever! The FA is seen as a joke by the rest of the world, they will be loving this. I cant wait for Capello to tell his side of the story. I will be in the Ukraine whatever as like the Albion will always support the team. England fans that I know (those of us that go) are mainly pi**ed of with the FA and respect Capello for wanting to be the one that makes the football decisions. I still say if Bloom stepped in and made a footballing decision over Poyets head he would walk away.......
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Am i the only one slightly sad to see Capello go?/ Next England manager?
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BensGrandad
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I would think that you are joined by about 40,000 Spuirs fans in regretting that Fabio has gone.
Sompting_Seagull
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I wanted Capello when they gave it to the wolly with the brolly. Thought he would do a great job, and he did at first, so I'm a bit miffed how the media have played a big part in getting rid of the england manager again. I liked all the discipline and continental style he brought in, which at the time was what i thought we needed and it seemed to work until the world cup when we actually realised you really couldnt 'polish a turd' (love that expression!). Think Harry is a cert for job, though i like Hiddinks credentials. When they started talking about having a manager who would develop all four england teams U16/U19/U21/Seniors then i wonder where Hoddle is on the list as apart from his faith healing and corrupt view on reincarnation i thought he did a great job years ago.
kevo
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Strange thing about Robson - he was also viewed as a complete disaster and ridiculed by media and fans, until the World Cup finals when it all came good.
Glad he has gone.Should have gone after World Cup fiasco.However,the whole matter could have been handled better by the F.A.and it is a shame they were panicked into changing his contract when they thought he was going to bugger off to whoever it was in Europe.Shame he didn't!
W.C.
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- Oct 31, 2011
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I'm saddened that the English game is so far behind in terms of development /coaching. Hopefully our rise will show the way to go.
Re: the FA. Just read an article on the BBC and I thought this part was very good. Perfect summing up of how they lurchfrom one manager to the other
Capello was also the unwitting victim of the FA's regular habit of appointing an England manager as knee-jerk contrast to the failings of the one who has gone before.
Back in 1994, Graham Taylor's lumpy playing style and low public stock led directly to the tabloid-friendly and eye-pleasing regime of Terry Venables. When that was ended by questionable business deals and unseemly court cases, the clean-cut Glenn Hoddle was called in - replaced in turn by the crowd-pleasing populism of Kevin Keegan when Hoddle ostracised himself with poor man-management and outre public utterances.
Keegan proved tactically naive. The result? The summoning of Sven, urbane, sophisticated and supposedly a supreme Serie A strategist. When the foreigner was deemed to have failed, the FA switched to a no-nonsense Englishman, who promptly did the same.
After the Wally with the Brolly, Capello was meant to bring class and composure. Yet he was never loved by England fans, never in the way Venables was for a period, not even regarded with the same fond affection as Keegan.
Re: the FA. Just read an article on the BBC and I thought this part was very good. Perfect summing up of how they lurchfrom one manager to the other
Capello was also the unwitting victim of the FA's regular habit of appointing an England manager as knee-jerk contrast to the failings of the one who has gone before.
Back in 1994, Graham Taylor's lumpy playing style and low public stock led directly to the tabloid-friendly and eye-pleasing regime of Terry Venables. When that was ended by questionable business deals and unseemly court cases, the clean-cut Glenn Hoddle was called in - replaced in turn by the crowd-pleasing populism of Kevin Keegan when Hoddle ostracised himself with poor man-management and outre public utterances.
Keegan proved tactically naive. The result? The summoning of Sven, urbane, sophisticated and supposedly a supreme Serie A strategist. When the foreigner was deemed to have failed, the FA switched to a no-nonsense Englishman, who promptly did the same.
After the Wally with the Brolly, Capello was meant to bring class and composure. Yet he was never loved by England fans, never in the way Venables was for a period, not even regarded with the same fond affection as Keegan.
Mo Gosfield
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- Aug 11, 2010
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As football is a very simple and superficial game it does not require a lot of patience or intelligence to watch it. The masses see Premiership football every week and believe they are watching top class English players. They ring radio stations to pass judgement on footballing issues and describe English players as ' great ' ' fantastic ' and ' world class '
Sadly, these throwaway epithets are part of the problem. These individuals lack the experience, maturity and intelligence to distinguish between the journeyman, the above average, the good, the very good and the great. They fail to recognise the difference between club football and top international football. They see a player ' ripping up trees ' for his club ( e.g Gerrard ) and immediately think that he can transfer that to the top international stage.
There are very few players in the world capable of influencing top international matches by themselves and even fewer who can win these games off their own backs. These are the ' greats ' of football and you can write their names on the back of a playing card and still have room to spare.
How many of our lauded, pampered and overpaid ' golden generation ' have been capable of this. Answer....None.
Post-war I can only think of these English players who deserve to be called great.
1) Tom Finney...2) Bobby Charlton...3) Bobby Moore...4) Duncan Edwards ( would have been the best of all time had he survived Munich )
Behind these immortals come.....Haynes, Greaves, Banks, Shilton, Gascoigne and Lineker. Just short of great but right up there in top international class.
The current England players are well below this level and most will continue to be so when they are carried through club football by talented foreign team-mates. They look good because they are made to look good. In truth, most of them are pretty ordinary.
Capello should have gone straight after the World Cup, as most managers do after abject failure. So should most of the players. Some of them have been through a minimum of 4 international tournaments with little or no influence and yet still wear the England shirt.
No one should be frightened of blooding youth. The bravest and boldest managers do it and throw the challenge down. Sadly, caution prevails too much in football and Capello was guilty of it. Lets hope the next England manager is bold and brave and imaginative. We've waited too long.
Sadly, these throwaway epithets are part of the problem. These individuals lack the experience, maturity and intelligence to distinguish between the journeyman, the above average, the good, the very good and the great. They fail to recognise the difference between club football and top international football. They see a player ' ripping up trees ' for his club ( e.g Gerrard ) and immediately think that he can transfer that to the top international stage.
There are very few players in the world capable of influencing top international matches by themselves and even fewer who can win these games off their own backs. These are the ' greats ' of football and you can write their names on the back of a playing card and still have room to spare.
How many of our lauded, pampered and overpaid ' golden generation ' have been capable of this. Answer....None.
Post-war I can only think of these English players who deserve to be called great.
1) Tom Finney...2) Bobby Charlton...3) Bobby Moore...4) Duncan Edwards ( would have been the best of all time had he survived Munich )
Behind these immortals come.....Haynes, Greaves, Banks, Shilton, Gascoigne and Lineker. Just short of great but right up there in top international class.
The current England players are well below this level and most will continue to be so when they are carried through club football by talented foreign team-mates. They look good because they are made to look good. In truth, most of them are pretty ordinary.
Capello should have gone straight after the World Cup, as most managers do after abject failure. So should most of the players. Some of them have been through a minimum of 4 international tournaments with little or no influence and yet still wear the England shirt.
No one should be frightened of blooding youth. The bravest and boldest managers do it and throw the challenge down. Sadly, caution prevails too much in football and Capello was guilty of it. Lets hope the next England manager is bold and brave and imaginative. We've waited too long.
Chris_Highwind
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What is the point in sacking(I say sacked as I think he was pushed into it by the FA) a manager 4 months before a major tournament? Thought we were finally sticking with a manager post-shit tournament performance to build on something but I guess not. If Harry Redknapp gets the job it's a shamble, that one FA Cup 'Arry's won really is as good as 7 Serie A titles! Should have never got rid of Sven tbh, I think people don't realise is that maybe we just aren't that good, and Sven's record for qualification and the fact he got us into 3 successive quarter finals 2 of which we lost on pens and one was against Brazil, is pretty damn good.