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[Albion] Alzate
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Don't see what difference it makes but personally, I'd be thinking he'll be worth twice that in a couple of years so quite happy with it.
You could look at it in terms of, the set up and running costs of the academy (quoted are £70m and £5m per year) are the transfer fee, or equivalent of, for the young players we have coming through
Could Alzate be the new Gary Stevens?
Delighted, he is ridiculously good. Won’t be long before he’s recognised as our best midfielder.
In the few matches he’s played, I’ve seen enough in his touch, vision, awareness and physicality to see he’s going to the top.
symyjym
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Stevens was a CB.
He was an incredibly versatile player who played CB and in midfield as I recall. To some extent perhaps his career suffered because he was too versatile. That's where the comparison came from in my head.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
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I think this was why his career suffered, he was doing really well before it
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&r...=3Oq4lLNvNFE&usg=AOvVaw209TIiXkFII0arlOUzhFC2
symyjym
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I only remember him playing as a LCB. I have always seen Dunk as our modern day Stevens.
Stevens career was cut short at Spurs after a leg breaking tackle not long after he left us.
https://www.footiewithdad.com/even-stevens-former-england-international-gary-stevens-story/
Unless he played midfield for Spurs I'm not convinced of the versatile bit. Not saying he couldn't play midfield, more that he didn't.
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Yes. In the time he's had on the pitch this season, he's been mostly out of position somewhere on the left and he has had no top level experience to fall back on. Despite this, he is already a serious threat for Propper's place (a full Dutch international). In my opinion Alzate is already at Davy's level as a CM and by the end of the season will have easily surpassed it. Getting to Stephens level will take a bit more doing as his form has been unbelievable so far.
I wonder what Bissouma is thinking
Green Cross Code Man
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Saw him play that position for us. He was versatile.
symyjym
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When? Who else played beside Foster? Did we sometimes play with 1 CB? Or was that his apprentice position?
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Okay I take it back about Stevens.
Ninja Elephant
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- Feb 16, 2009
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This is a classic case of massively overestimating the ability of a young player to replace a man with years of experience playing in a totally different role in the team. Alzate hasn't been playing in a position with as much responsibility as Pröpper and, without being overly critical of a young player, I'm not sure there's too much tangible contribution you can really point to so far. He was unlucky with the timing of the run at Newcastle, on another day he stays onside that's probably a winning goal. But otherwise, I can't remember him being too involved in the positive moments of the games he's been involved with. He looks very neat and tidy, but it's too soon to start lauding him as our best midfielder...
He has all the potential in the world though, good feet, a good footballing brain and potential to be whatever he wants to be.
This.
It'll be easy to spot #TeamShitehouse in a couple of months time.
The kid is class but is also a kid.
Id be amazed if he can maintain this phenomenonal start.
His form will dip (I can't comprehend him moving ever upward) yet we all know when the dip arrives it won't be just a dip but a massive fall in form from a player who was inexplicably put on a massive pedestal.
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There was certainly a tangible contribution for the winner against Everton.
The difference between the two is that Alzate has impressed me every time i've seen him. Davy, one in two games is quite good.
Mostly agree, but there are degrees of potential. I don’t think you would say a Ronaldo or a Rooney for example were overestimated as first teamers at 19.
Not saying that Alzate is necessarily in that bracket, but if a player is good enough he’s good enough. Regardless of age.
Now I like Propper. A lot. But let’s be honest here, the guy is basically a journeyman. A decent player, but has never set any league alight.
Why limit Alzates potential to Propper.
I still hold out hope Bissouma gets his chance to play Potter ball. The guy is a serious serious talent imo, even under Hughtons defensive style he showed glimpses of real quality.
Just class again, what a player we have on our hands.
With more games under his belt, it’s so exciting to think just how good he could become because some of the things he does on the ball now totally belie his age and experience.
With more games under his belt, it’s so exciting to think just how good he could become because some of the things he does on the ball now totally belie his age and experience.
Just a very good player.
But, yes as you say, he is learning and will have good and bad moments.
Needs to work on his left foot [emoji2]
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Is he the best midfielder to come out of our youth set-up? Better than JFC in so many ways.