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How should fans cheer and be enthusiastic when the ball is just hit long to no-one then ?
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All this "getting behind the team" stuff. It's just meaningless bollocks
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How should fans cheer and be enthusiastic when the ball is just hit long to no-one then ?
If the product they pay over the odds for is utter shit then it's hardly inspiring on a cold night is it?
I am afraid that the atmosphere will only improve when the product on the pitch merits it. Against Luton, the atmosphere at the start of the second half (about 6 minutes) was much better because the team were attacking and driving forward. However, it didn't take long to return to the usual drivel we have seen all season. You cannot expect the crowd to raise the atmosphere when in all expectation it will have no effect.
Adams must get the team fired up before the start of the game and then get at the opposition from the off and only then will you see some improvement.
Adams must get the team fired up before the start of the game and then get at the opposition from the off and only then will you see some improvement.
eastlondonseagull
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Therein lies the rub, though, Buzzer. Because we very rarely do our job these days. We turn up and, at best, sit in silence, with very little encouraging support. That's why our away record is (marginally!) better, because we do try to create an atmosphere away from home.
Dodgy refereeing decisions are about the only times the south stand comes alive, singing section not included, of course.
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Spider
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- Sep 15, 2007
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Sorry, I wasn't acually referring to you with the youth players comment. I went back to edit the post and didn't re-read it so didn't notice it sounded like it was directed at you! I would say,though, that Kuipers, Elphick, Hinshelwood, Murray and Forster are all good enough players to be competing at the top of the division, and you could probably throw 1 of our midfielders in there if they were surrounded by decent players.
As for support at Withdean, it's obviously shit but it's not as bad as most make out. To be honest, when we go away, almost every other ground has home fans that sit in silence, we're far from the only ones who make a crap atmosphere. I remember reading some article about support, and it basically concluded that noise was generated from the direction of play - not the other way around (ie. support only got louder when there was a chance, the support didn't help create a chance). If that's the case - there's a good reason why the support has been shit, the football has been even worse.
Man of Harveys
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Blimey, this debate certainly is raging at the moment, I reckon it's as juicy a time as there's been on NSC since the Goldstone was standing.
Obviously there have always been plenty of noisy and persistent cretins who sulk and flounce about windily on here, 'TARDS who boast childishly about not attending home games and in whose eyes the club evidently can do nothing right, the NSC equivalent of those slightly mongy kids at school who got stuck at the back of any class that they weren't expelled from to disrupt by moaning and farting throughout. Their disenfranchised bleatings from afar can very easily be ignored. And that's the last thing they want people to do to them.
And of course there are also some in whose eyes the club can do nothing wrong, those who seriously seem to be suggesting that everyone who's paying £25-30 in a credit crunch should continue to cheer and support throughout, like SHEEP fed on a diet of prozac and tartrazine, despite an obvious run of boring performances and dreadful results. This is also entirely unrealistic.
But the difference at the moment is that the unhappiness with Adams is seemingly being felt by those who fall into neither of those groups - neither 'TARD nor SHEEP say. I'd put myself in that category.
For what little it's worth, my opinion is that Adams should go or be pushed out now, before he does any more damage - the first stage of dealing with a problem is acknowledging that there's a problem and his inability to do that has done for him in my eyes, even before all the dreadful tactics, substitutions, motivation, selections etc etc etc etc.
And Knight should hold his hand up and say it was a worthwhile risk to take at the time - the kind of tough judgement call that chairmen have to make - but it clearly just hasn't worked out. He's nothing to apologise for or anything IMHO - it was a fair mistake and they're going to happen, but a big mistake that needs to be rectified immediately nonetheless. Sorry, long and waffly post.
Obviously there have always been plenty of noisy and persistent cretins who sulk and flounce about windily on here, 'TARDS who boast childishly about not attending home games and in whose eyes the club evidently can do nothing right, the NSC equivalent of those slightly mongy kids at school who got stuck at the back of any class that they weren't expelled from to disrupt by moaning and farting throughout. Their disenfranchised bleatings from afar can very easily be ignored. And that's the last thing they want people to do to them.
And of course there are also some in whose eyes the club can do nothing wrong, those who seriously seem to be suggesting that everyone who's paying £25-30 in a credit crunch should continue to cheer and support throughout, like SHEEP fed on a diet of prozac and tartrazine, despite an obvious run of boring performances and dreadful results. This is also entirely unrealistic.
But the difference at the moment is that the unhappiness with Adams is seemingly being felt by those who fall into neither of those groups - neither 'TARD nor SHEEP say. I'd put myself in that category.
For what little it's worth, my opinion is that Adams should go or be pushed out now, before he does any more damage - the first stage of dealing with a problem is acknowledging that there's a problem and his inability to do that has done for him in my eyes, even before all the dreadful tactics, substitutions, motivation, selections etc etc etc etc.
And Knight should hold his hand up and say it was a worthwhile risk to take at the time - the kind of tough judgement call that chairmen have to make - but it clearly just hasn't worked out. He's nothing to apologise for or anything IMHO - it was a fair mistake and they're going to happen, but a big mistake that needs to be rectified immediately nonetheless. Sorry, long and waffly post.
I'm with Buzzer on this. The entertainment factor at Withdean has been missing and fans are finding it hard to get excited about long balls that end up setting another opposition attack. We do support the team when some quality is apparent. The atmosphere for the Man City game was great and if you watch the video of that game we played atrractive passing football. In the first 10 minutes of the second half last Tuesday we got behind the team but it all went pear shaped. Then to be told by the manager that we are the enemies or he has lost faith in us is at the least bad PR and hardly likely to get us to cheer on the team.
When you get folk like John Baine and Dave the Gaffer saying enough is enough then surely we cannot all be wrong in agreeing with them. I doubt if many want Adams to fail but at the moment he seems to be a deadman walking.